[mattfurlani]

Oh i know diagnostics help but OBD I tells you where the problem is and not what the problem is and i was refering to the lack of PCV as ghetto. I don't have acess to an OBD I machine and i'm not going to buy one. (no $$$) Where i come from its not an insult to call something ghetto. Its just calling it jury-rigged or a similar phrase. Not trying to insult anyone who's from a ghetto. It makes sense, but instead of releiving the pressure with a valve its just kinda floating it back into the intake. It would seem better to have a one way valve on it.

I know that the problem is a unaccoutned air or fuel intake. it can start happening the instant you start the motor. I changed the vacuum lines. I don't think the lack of Charcoal canister could effect the idle but maybe i should make sure my plugs are solid.

And I know about the bench bleeding the master cylinder and starting with the caliper the farthest away from it. We've done everything you guys have mentioned i just know i'm getting the mechanics block and just getting frustrated and not thinking about it. I figured there has to be someone who knows what i'm overlooking.

Beleive me I don't have time to be insulting anyone. Sorry I chose poor words to describe my thoughts. I hope nobody lost sleep or cried about it (note the sarcasm) I'm not sure i know anyone who lives in a ghetto in OH... maybe CT I seem to remember driving through Hartford a few times