Okay, got some pics of the cams and such today. I think, knowing that the odometer shows 197XXX miles, that some one has had the head off and done some work. These look a little too clean for as many miles as the odometer shows. My wife's camry has 150K + and they look like they have been dipped in coffee. These have really no tint to them at all. The valleys are clean. Well, take your own look and let me know what you think.