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Old 01-28-2009, 03:18 AM   #11
kwnate
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Originally Posted by pwpanas View Post
For what it's worth, I've seen several mkiv tt's making 600rwhp using piggypacks, with extremely stable fuel and timing curves. Imho, a standalone isn't necessary (or cost-justified) until at least 750rwhp+.

Again, a brake/suspension upgrade depends on the application. The oem bakes & suspension roadraces just fine, even with a single turbo. This is a proven combo in One Lap of America, and other roadracing events. My interest here is to provide advice for a cost-effective set of upgrades. Sure you could blow/waste a bunch of hard-earned $$$ on big brakes, penske shocks, sway bars, etc., but is it really necessary? Until I know that he's running (for example) better than 1:40s at Road Atlanta, the oem brakes (with carbotech pads), and oem suspension are JUST FINE. If you don't mind me asking kwnate, please provide some sort of first-hand experience for challenging me on this point. Have you personally roadraced an mkiv tt with the oem suspension?
The mkIV has better suspension and brakes then the mkIII, obviously. That being said, I personally have a mkIII with 600+rwhp and it is a handful when you step into it. I have a bbk front and rear, coilovers, and a six point cage. These are a must on mkIII's when upgrading to these power levels, I can say with much confidence that my car handles and stops better than the almighty mkiv in stock form. It's my opinion that these upgrades are needed for safety reasons no matter what you say or some magazine says about the handling of a 300hp car, it's a totally different car with double the power. Yes you can drive a 600whp mkiv with stock suspension and brakes, are you getting the most out of it safely?? I say no.

Maybe I'm challenging you because no one on this entire website knows what they are talking about, it's the first forum people join until they find the real ones with real experts with real world experience. Am I not suppose to challenge a comment that I disagree with? Are you immune to these challenges due to your moderator status here? Is my opinion not valid because I don't have a magazine to reference or because you don't agree? I'm sorry, build the car to safely handle the power, then apply the power. Don't cheap out either, do it right the first time. If you want 600rwhp to last and be reliable you need to dump alot of hard earned cash into.

I'm used to mkiii guys being cheap, guess the mkiv's are starting to see that too...
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