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Old 05-16-2010, 02:43 PM   #1
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Well I pulled #5 plug and as feared it is all to hell. Stripped? JB weld on it? Not sure. Looking down into my plug hole I see that it has some sort of lip 3/4 down either from some gunk that was put in there or from being stripped. I don't know how it could have what looks like a solid lip in the threads if it was stripped. New plug starts in there fine but apparently won't tighten down. The plug look strange like the threads are filled with goop rather than sheared off. Took forever to get out of the block, Do I get a die and try to run it through or am I screwed and have to pull the motor take the block to a machine shop? Or do I just say screw it and part it out? Disgusted now. Scott


I found this info, maybe I can run a tap through and be fine. Seems I have encountered a plug that has welded itself to the block....Lucky Me! I bet number 4 and 3 are the same way, might as well pull the heads and do the HD as well. This is what happens when you design a car that people can't get to the plugs on they don't get changed like they should. Looks like this turned into a summer project. DAMN!



A: There are a number of ways to repair stripped threads. In fact, it may be possible to simply chase the old threads with a tap and clean them up. Or, as illustrated, you can insert a Helicoil. There are several types of repair inserts, but we prefer Helicoils. I'd give your mechanic a shot at fixing the threads before I held his feet to the fire. When a spark plug has had a chance to marry a cylinder head for 100,000 miles, it's not uncommon for the aluminum threads to come out of the head with the plug. (I pull and inspect plugs every couple of years and reinstall them with a small dab of antiseize compound, but that's another column.)

A proper thread repair should last as long as the life of the car. This type of repair can be used for almost any threaded fastener, by the way. And that includes cast-iron, steel and aluminum parts. Warning: Installing a Helicoil or other threaded insert looks simple -- but it's not. Any readers out there who wish to attempt it might want to practice a couple of times on scrap parts.

Start by threading the special Helicoil tap into the remaining threads in the head. This is to ensure the new threads are concentric and parallel with the originals. Continue threading the tap in to cut the new, oversize threads. To avoid getting aluminum chips in the cylinder when retapping the threads, you should coat the tap with grease. The chips will stick to the grease and come back out with the tap. Back out the chip-laden tap, and clean up any remaining chips.

I've also filled the cylinder (before tapping the hole) with oil-soaked clothesline to catch any chips -- but that was in a racing engine with a squish band only a few thousandths of an inch deep. Street engines with a more normal compression ratio should be fine if you are careful, and blow the chips out with compressed air. Mostly, you don't want any chips to find their way out the exhaust port and wind up in the catalytic converter.

Now you can thread the appropriate-length coil over the installation mandrel. There's a raised flat on the mandrel that will catch on the tang in the coil, allowing you to thread the coil into your new threads. The coil is a little bit bigger than the threads, which will keep it in place when you're finished. The tang will pull the coil into place from the inner end. Once the coil is in place, remove the mandrel.

Now, use a pair of needle-nose pliers to break the tang off. It's prescored to break off cleanly and easily. Do NOT drop the tang into the cylinder! A few aluminum chips will not damage your engine, but a 1/2-in.-long piece of sharp stainless steel wire will tattoo the top of your piston and the combustion chamber before it finally gets out past the exhaust valve.
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