we;; thanx supraman, any advice helps, it's just when i got my loan for the car i went out and got my 95 avenger without looking and got myself into more then i bargened for sota speak, so once i sell this thing i don't want to rush into a supra if there is a car similar to it with more potential but i did in the last hour or two look at some more 300zx info and you are absolutely right, the MKIII has WAY more internal upgrading potential, then the 300 zx and ontop of that i'm hearing stuff off of survays about them not being all that reliable, in other words they break, and if these ppl are all right then they aren't a quick or cheap fix either, so i think i'll scratch that one off the list but hey guys if you have any more advice or comments please post them, god knows i needed more posts in my thread on winter supras, lol, all i got was throw some winters rims on and sandbag it... anyways, thanx again, byes