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Originally Posted by pwpanas
Um, no. Bone stock, the Mkiv TT auto is faster in the 1/4 mile than the 6spd, and more consistent too. Of course, it's more comfortable to drive - try kicking some butt from a stoplight while drinking a coffee in a 6spd.  ...
Not at all,imho. Considering what you get, it's a great value.
1) With an n/a you'll really struggle to get 500hp - I'm talking thousands and thousands of dollars and many, many hours of expert time. With an Mkiv TT in good shape, 500hp is very straightforward, and the upgrades are almost trivial. Of course, those upgrades aren't free, but their complexity and cost is far lower than trying to get an n/a to perform equivalently.
2) MOST importantly, a strongly performing car is about SO much more than horsepower alone. What's the good of horsepower if you just sit there and spin with skinny 16" tires, or can't corner when you get going, or can't stop at the end? The Mkiv TT gives you all of that in one package, and the n/a does not.You're VERY wrong about this, if you consider the entire set of upgrades to achieve your ultimate goal. No one wants a powerful car that just sits there and spins and can't go anywhere or stop.
Like everything else in life, a TT is worth the wait. Work hard, save for a few more months, and get the TT if that's the kind of performance you want.
At 500hp, an n/a auto tranny could fail very quickly (weeks or months) especially if you put some good tires on the back. Again, if you run skinny high-mileage tires on 16" rims and just want to do smokeshows, perhaps the tranny will last a while longer.
The 5spd will probably hold 500hp for a good long while. The MKIII Supra with the 5spd has proven very reliable at that level.
Depends if you're planning to roadrace or not.
The oem TT diff is much stronger, but you may not need that if you never go beyond 500hp.
The oem n/a ignition system ...for lack of a better term... sucks donkey balls. You'll need to upgrade it to make a reliable 500hp+ with an n/a-T. |
Hey, firstly thank you again for taking your time just to answer me.
Secondly, I want to clarify some things about my future use of the Supra.
I'm a student in London, and this thing means 2 important things:
1) I will only drive the Supra on weekends(+
I don't intend to drag race it for the moment or road race it too much) or MAYBE 1 time during the week if really needed as going through London is way better/convenient with underground/overground/buses
2) For the reason above, I don't have that kind of money to pay for gas every day and that's why TT manuals + upgrading are kind of over my buget for now(until I finish uni and get a job) because as I said before, I only have like 3k $ asside + around 3k $ from my parents; so the only affordable supra is the n/a or maybe if I find a cheap high mileage auto tt(but that means keeping it stock). Saving like 200$ per month for tt means I have to wait years, so i'm better moneywise + learning wise with n/a made turbo until I finish uni, get a job and afford a tt.
I don't even think of buying the n/a auto, all the time I was referring to the 5spd n/a.
You said it will hold 500 hp, well I don't intend on going higher than that because for my first Supra, my first 200hp + car and my first right hand drive car I think it's enough
And why will I struggle so hard to achieve 500hp? You make it sound almost impossible
. From what I've read in the last week over and over again, the n/a with a turbo kit(intercooler, wastegate, bov etc) will make over 300 HP and will need the 1.3mm gasket to lower compression, map ecu, upgraded fuel system(fuel pump + 550 injectors) and ebc(to raise a little the boost) to make 500 hp. What I am missing ?
Again,
I REALLY KNOW why the TT is way better than the n/a(even with the turbo) but in my situation, as I can't afford the TT soon but can afford upgrading the brakes on the n/a after ~ 2 months, and then something else, piece by piece, I believe this is the best solution.
Feel free to come up with other solutions/ideas!