it might b hurtful to the transmission or what not, but personally i think clutcj dipping is the best way to make a supra drift, i got a stock n/a with stock suspension, but im able to drift with it, idk why cuz maybe im jus mde for it cuz i kinda suck at drag racing, but i've been able to pull some moves with my car, i can do double 180 i can drift around corners and turn i can even connect my drift together, it jus comes natural to me

Supra's Drift (**Hands Down**)
 

I honestly don't think that some of these guys saying that the Supra doesn't drift have never completed a drift in one themselves. That may sound obvious, but what I mean is that if they havn't done it themselves...then BAM it can't be done.

I like others on this topic can drift with a Supra. I have a 87 turbo, stock tires, and rims and all....that thing can drift on pavement, in second if I want to. Rain is great, no questions there, it has helped newbie drifters become great masters of the art. In rain, I can easily drift in 3, fourth spools the tires too fast to do anything GREAT if your doing under 60km/h. New pavement is also a bonus.

In my opinion, I would opt to find a parking lot, like a mall parking lot, and learn how to bump your rear end out (Just a bit) around a lamp post....don't power it through...just get it to kick out, and maybe skid a bit. Increase your enter speed SLOWLY at each pass. Learn the control you need to keep your car through the small skids.

Once that is achieved, start using throttle once your back end it kicked out. Your not looking for some INSANE cool angle here either....small angles to start out with. Keep learning with more throttle till you FEEL the balance of speed and your arc. It will come to anyone who practices.

Once you can drift around a light post, with confidence...not a ONE DAY confidence either....do this a couple times (Remember to change parking lots...cops like to nail us when we try to drift in one area to long....wonder why, arn't we helping put rubber onto their pavement??), on different days. Then maybe try to find a parking lot with TWO light posts closer together....then in the middle of the night, go there and attempt to drift around both, not a figure eight...just both of them. Keep doing this, keep remembering how it feels in different situations.

Before long of SLOWLY building up your skill, you will be able to do LONG drifts in no time. There is always room for error when drifting, and it usually happens when your doing something TOTALLY COOL. Just remember that you can come back and do that same thing again another day, if you had to pull out of it because you were unsure.

And ALWAYS keep this in mind. IS YOUR CAR WORTH A CHICKS NUMBER?

If you go watch Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift dont go thinking that you can go flying fthrough the city streets drifting through traffic and parking garages.

no arguement the movie was good, but i hate the sH!t out of it

that movie got every punk that drives thier parents car, sum preppy ass ,
god, its so annoying i can even explain it

drifting was my only pure sanctum, it was one of those things that you dont know unless you already know things

now every punk with undriftable cars, are crowding the parking lots getting unncessary attention from PIGS

you wont believe this kid with a civic askd me what do i do , bcuz he cant make his car drift?

what the hell, right there i can tell this kid jus saw the movie and decided to do it for himself, there's already been at least 3 accidents from and close to where i live at, and 1 of them was fatal

I HATE THAT MOVIE SO MUCH

y would u try to drift with a FWD car? dumbass.


sounds like your popular supra2NR, with all these kids coming up to you asking you how to drift.

not popular, i was jus one of the originals using that parking lot for drifting
i've been learning drifting for a couple years now
even b4 i had my supra
even b4 the movie

i realized this when i found out i can control my car fishtailing
so i kept doing it around corners
i ddnt even knew that there was a sport called drifting back then i wasnt watching tv a lot i was in car more that 2/3 of the day, if i wasnt working

but i told the kid to go as close you can to the wall and pull the e-brake
and yes i did throw him off the cliff basically
cuz he did exactly what i had in mind

he went close to the wall, he pulled his e-brake, and jus like i predicted, and envisioned, his car went 180' and the rear smashed the wall

the funny part, he ddnt even knew what i did to him, cuz he askd me what did he do wrong, so he went for a ride in my car and i showed him how i pull the e-brake
i was cracking up inside but i had to hold it in until i left the parking lot

b4 anybody say anything
nobody was hurt when this happnd
except his or his mom's pocket
or maybe his civic lol
but i did everybody a favor i took a ricer out of the streets

i did found humor with this
i do find it hilarious
im sori im offend pple
but im wired (not weird) that way
i find humor in other pple misery
well at least pple that deserve it

he did talk shit about me when i couldnt pull a perfect figure 8
so he got what he deserved

and to make it more hilarious i got a sketch of what happend
it was rainy too and the asphalt was wethttp://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5471/driftdc0.png
the fourth red box was when his car turned around and did the 180 then the 5th
is the funniest part

Hey guy's I'm new to the forum and I just bought a 1988 toyota supra with the 7mGE inline6 enigine and it has a 5spd transmission. Is it really that hard to drift these cars, because I just floor it in first and the back end breaks loose with no problem, I'm still trying to learn how to do it, but I think with a little bit of suspension work, I could probably do it with ease.

Actually you CAN drift a front wheel drive car, BUT it's not called drifting it's called powersliding. Me and my friend took our cars and learned how to do it in the snow and then we got really good at it and then tried it on dry pavement, we got really good and we got props for knowing how to do it without causing over steer or fish tailing, but now I have my new supra and I will have to learn how to do it all over again. I have to say though, it was really hillarious watching all these guys try to "drift" their little ford escorts and other 4 cyl cars. I did however see a 1994 RX7 Turbo drift around a turn, VERY NICELY, I might add, but then get pulled over because he was stupid and slid right in front of an undercover cop car...

speaking of powersliding...whats fun to do is find a FWD car and go get some trays from taco bell or mcdonalds and put the trays under the back tires of the FWD car and take off in a parking lot or somewhere open.

i think its sweet cuz you can do 180s and 270s and sometimes 360s without a problem

when i had my supra i was goin to get some food around 1 or 2 AM i find myself cuttin through a big parking lot, it was empty no cops around. i stop and turn down the radio and listen to the engine to see what she wants. She wanted a figure 8 badly... i start from a 20mph roll shift in neutral and rev and shift in D and pulled a nice figure 8 it has a lil tail though but still nice, and that figure 8 is still in that parking lot today its a lil faded but u can see it. when i pulled up to the mcdonald's window to pay for my food the worker said she smelled burning rubber. i told her to look over at the parking lot and she saw it. she gave me a free double cheese burger :drool:

"its only called powersliding"
exactly, you cant drift with a fwd
le me see sumbody try to drift at 60 mph then change directions
while connecting drifts without straightening out

not to argue with you, but fwd cars cant drift

i tried drifting in a FWD car the only thing it did was fish tail and then straighten out, i recommend not to do it when ur goin fast cause i learned that the hardway....

FWD camry drifting

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...1e017c4c61.htm

I know you cant "DRIFT" a FWD car, but there is a class for FWD cars...but you have to put a lot of money into them to make them powerful enough to keep them going...

i know why that camry successfully drifted that S turn,
1. he was goin fast enough
2. the body roll helped him slide
3. if it was only that firs turn he would have turned back around to the left but since it was a S turn he turned to the left and he kept the drift goin.
4. he practiced thats for sure, no way a noob could pull that off in one or a few tries.

of course any car could do that

thats what you call getting up to 45 cutting to the left and back to the right real quick to make the back end come out.
and of course when you do taht your gonna get some sort of drift acttion.

lets see him go around a course or a big C turn with the back end still out without a high speed start

Drift
 

I can drift mine when i runs

ok lets break it down

what is drifting

3 ways
e-brake
clutch dip
power over

drift : creating an arc while spinning the rear tires while maintaining traction with the front tires

what fwd cars do is a 4-wheel slide, (or powerslide)
that is mostly avoided in drifting, cuz that how you lose points
same thing with straightening out big point deduction (instant loss)
spinning out (also instant loss)

turning on a pivot point is not drifting, the closes that thing comes is "donuts"
and the only way a fwd can create and arc is to powerslide (which isnt drifting)

what that camry did was empresive, but still is not drifting
its jus fishtailing with style and control
it might look like it was drifting, but it jus turned on two diffrent pivot points

unless you guys can master to drift the car backwards
so this way you can spin the rear , and have traction in the front
i think you can create somewhat of an arc like that
i'll leave it to the pros tho
now that i will be in tears of joy, cuz i will be so f-ing impressed
hands down to anybody that can do that


and b fair now
we rwd drivers get a high speed start too, thats what makes it exciting

^ nuff said gj buddy all these people are putangyna

spelled wrong , its putang-ina
but good enuff

where'd you learnd this?

most of my friends are phillipino and i hang around them too much and my friend's parents teach me some of it. and while im hangin out wit them i catch on to it.

Technically drifting is just keeping the car sideways without spinning out...Which he did. Aure, Its fake, But that doesnt make it not "drifting". There is also a few other methods you didnt mention. Downshifting, Letting off the gas hard (high compression bigger motors, like v8s), Flicking the car, And just plain old going into a turn hot and not crashing. You can do it in any car, You dont neccesarily have to be spinning the back tires to do it. Rally cars drift an entire race and they arent spinning the whole time, Im sure they would be experts at it. As for the supra, It needs a lot of suspension work to do the real on-power wheel spinnign drifting, The car hooks up too well. Once you get it out of shape, Its hard to keep there, Because it will either wana go all the way out or come back. All these bigger rwd sports cars are like that (camaros, trans ams, mustangs, stuff like that). It also would need a lot more steering angle. I know this just from trying to do it in the rain, You cant turn far enough to get a good totally sideways drift going. The car was meant to hookup and take turns without getting unstable or squirmy, So making it do those on purpose takes some work. Dam I just typed a lot

so youre an adopted filipino then, lol
i got a lot of those here lol

a drift is a drift
a powerslide is a powerslide no other else

have you seen those oval drit races, they slide around all over the place there
spining tires too, but its not called drifting
there's a line in between

in the oval dirt race, they slide around corners, and race in dirt
they have similarities but can you call that rally racing

my point is, jus because it slides, doesnt mean it drifts

no offense, but this proves how much you know about drifting,
i downshift all day when im driving, it doesnt make you drift
what i wrote was the things that can initiate a drift

yes this is powering over your car, and yes it works with high horsepower car that tend to drift by itself
it is the same thing with what they call flicking your car, or the turkish feint

yes any car can go to a turn hot, and not crash, but it doesnt mean its drifting

please dont encourage pple that shouldnt be drifting to drift
while they havent completely ruined the sport
i dont have a parking lot to do it now in here
thanks to them, all the parking lots that used to be available, has a cop hiding somewhere now thanks to them

and this is what really pisses me
this kid's parents are blaming me now
cuz thier kid copied what i did

yea i guess u can say that cuz my friends dad considers me as his step-son cause i been friends with his son for over 7 years and we always play games with his dads and his family. they play counter-strike and have lan parties but havnt had one since a long time ago.

Ok, But did you ever downshift into 2nd while in the middle of a turn going 40? your getting sideways. Sorry your dictionary perfect version of drifing isnt the same as mine. Real "drifitng" (a term started by racers in the early 60s) Is using a controlled powerslide to your advantage to get around a race track faster. And in that corolla or whatever it was, He did a pretty controlled powerslide. Thats where drift racing actually came from, When people thought it would be fun to do that the entire race.

exactly my point again, the drifting sport that im talking about right now
is NOT USED FOR RACING, you can ansk any real drifters, if you drift you go slower, drift is a show art not a race technique

the technique youre talking about is when they use e-brakes in rally races cuz of certain corners that will take too much time too slow down
thats COMPLETELY DIFFRENT from the drifting that pple do now

daaaamn , i miss playing that game with pple, i used to kick ass on that game
i havent played in years tho, which suck, ill probly be the first one that gets killed in the first minute of the round now lol

thats how i used to be too lol i barely play any games anymore i jsut lost interest.

i miss drifting in my supra, it was really fun and all i needed were my bald tires in the rear and my good ones in the front, that would be it for me. Just get into a big parking lot flat surface no dips or anything, look around for cops (screw security and their lil battery carts i can run faster then those) and then just floor it and when u hear those tires spinning and gain a lil speed, just turn left then right sharply and take in every moment while your sliding. Thats wut i did, and i managed to pull a figure 8 nicely. Afterwards when i was drivin home i was thinking about how i was handling the car and seeing how i could perfect it.

i found another definition of drifting

its a burnout while being sideways,
try that with a fwd car without straightening-out lol

Lol
 

Alright, I believe we have all now learned that front wheels CAN'T actually drift, by definition. The best they can do it a controlled slide.

We needs some stories in here...lets here what you guys are doing.

im going to a drifting scene this saturday
i'll see if i can get sum videos or pics

how can you post vids in here anyways?

gotta upload them to youtube or something. Then just post a link

I had a video of me getting some good drifts on a damp road and then in the rain, I didnt want to tear my tires up trying to do it dry. Ill see if i can find it.

I couldnt find them, But i got these 2, for whoever cars...

I was going 60-70 at some points here, It doesnt look like it because of the hill, But i was hauling some ass through there.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...3600dc2adb.htm

This is just some random launch on a damp parking lot.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...3600db0c59.htm

those roads in the video with the focus look just like the roads here...but longer and around mountains.


plus you cant really get a feel for acceleration and speed that well when your filming. you have to experience it in person to feel it.

Yes thats true haha. My girlfriend was recording ( so i didnt crash). I just thought it would make a cool video. That was the last day I owned my n/a. Great to be doing before the guy is about to come get it haha.

I don't see anything wrong with that... you weren't going fast, you were shifting at like 4k under light throttle, and not even really braking hard.
Mild run at best.


7m2nr: you need to stop spouting off shit about drifting. there aren't only 3 ways, and "downshifting" is one of them. Actually it's called shift-lock. It's a technique, actual drifters use it, and it proves just how much YOU know about drifting.

Also, "turkish feint"? wtf? It's called a scandinavian flick.
Feint the opposite way before a corner to use weight transfer to initate a drift.

there are several techniques.
Power Over
Feint
Shift Lock
handbrake (Side Brake)
Kansei
Braking
Choku Dori

Please do some research yourself before you belittle others for things you no nothing about.

1st of all its SUPRA2nr lol

but i know most of the techniques, i jus had to say sumthing to pipe him down
cmon, fwd's can drift? you gotta be kidding

you know a lot about drifting too,
answer the question can fwd cars drift?

i guess pple call it diffrent here then lol
important thing is its the same thing
it can be called millions of names but its still the same thing

but i still think the best definition of drifting isa burnout sideways tho
(that way fwd car cant drift at all then)lol