New Guy...Engine Needs Time Please Help

90Fletcher · 11-16-2010, 07:08 PM

Hey New to The Supras. Not Heavily Into Imports but I Want to Expand My Knowledge and Not Have A Close Mind.

Im Planning On Getting An 82 Stock. but it needs to be timed.
My ? Is Has Any1 Time Their Engine be4 Themselves? If So Was It Easy or A little More Effort Than Forcasted? And Some Steps Would Help Me 2.
Or Maybe A Link To Answer My Question, like a "how to".
...If You Got This Done By A Shop How Much Did It Cost?

Thanks 4 Any Feedback.

cre · 11-16-2010, 08:46 PM

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar....aspx?S=IG&P=1

If you're only referring to the spark advance (aka ignition timing) you may skip to page IG-10. I believe this will be the same on your car as it was for the 86 which is the year this manual was written for.

90Fletcher · 11-16-2010, 11:24 PM

Ok Thanks- Yes The "ignition timing" is What Im Referring 2.
If I Do Get The Car I'll Let You Know How It Went

thanks again

CanadianBak'inSupra · 11-20-2010, 04:40 PM

there is little difrance between 82-86, im using an older head on my 84 right now.

make sure to use a timing light and jump T and E1

Ignition Timing is 10 degree's @ BTDC @ T and E1

good luck

cre · 11-20-2010, 06:13 PM

I was thinking of electrical changes. Toyota changed the ECU construction in the middle there and the diagnostic connectors changed along with a fair amount of wiring... I just don't know all the details.

I just looked it up and Toyota switched the MKII to their TCCS system in '83. So it's probably '82 and some '83 (L-Type vs P-Type). If anyone has more info or info to the contrary I'd like to know, I'm just going off of a quick survey of Google and CelicaSupra.

CanadianBak'inSupra · 11-21-2010, 12:54 AM

http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...ences-in-years

worth reading if you like the mkII

its mostly about appearance and hp ratins and rear end/trans. ratios.

CanadianBak'inSupra · 11-21-2010, 01:17 AM

82, has the 145hp and 150ft/lbs of torque 8.8:1 compression 7.72 gearing. vacuum advanced dist.

86 has 161hp and 169ft/lbs of torque differant style tps and egr knock sensor
5speeds:4.30 gears auto:4.10 gears electronic dist.

i am still looking for more on wiring differences...

CanadianBak'inSupra · 12-18-2010, 05:13 PM

http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...043#post699043

some good info on what year ecu and harness's are compatible

11-16-2010, 07:08 PM	#1
90Fletcher Stock Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KS Posts: 3	New Guy...Engine Needs Time Please Help Hey New to The Supras. Not Heavily Into Imports but I Want to Expand My Knowledge and Not Have A Close Mind. Im Planning On Getting An 82 Stock. but it needs to be timed. My ? Is Has Any1 Time Their Engine be4 Themselves? If So Was It Easy or A little More Effort Than Forcasted? And Some Steps Would Help Me 2. Or Maybe A Link To Answer My Question, like a "how to". ...If You Got This Done By A Shop How Much Did It Cost? Thanks 4 Any Feedback.

11-16-2010, 08:46 PM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar....aspx?S=IG&P=1 If you're only referring to the spark advance (aka ignition timing) you may skip to page IG-10. I believe this will be the same on your car as it was for the 86 which is the year this manual was written for. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

11-20-2010, 04:40 PM	#4
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	there is little difrance between 82-86, im using an older head on my 84 right now. make sure to use a timing light and jump T and E1 Ignition Timing is 10 degree's @ BTDC @ T and E1 good luck __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

11-20-2010, 06:13 PM	#5
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	I was thinking of electrical changes. Toyota changed the ECU construction in the middle there and the diagnostic connectors changed along with a fair amount of wiring... I just don't know all the details. I just looked it up and Toyota switched the MKII to their TCCS system in '83. So it's probably '82 and some '83 (L-Type vs P-Type). If anyone has more info or info to the contrary I'd like to know, I'm just going off of a quick survey of Google and CelicaSupra. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

11-21-2010, 12:54 AM	#6
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...ences-in-years worth reading if you like the mkII its mostly about appearance and hp ratins and rear end/trans. ratios. __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

11-16-2010, 11:24 PM	#3
90Fletcher Stock Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KS Posts: 3	Ok Thanks- Yes The "ignition timing" is What Im Referring 2. If I Do Get The Car I'll Let You Know How It Went thanks again

11-21-2010, 01:17 AM	#7
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	82, has the 145hp and 150ft/lbs of torque 8.8:1 compression 7.72 gearing. vacuum advanced dist. 86 has 161hp and 169ft/lbs of torque differant style tps and egr knock sensor 5speeds:4.30 gears auto:4.10 gears electronic dist. i am still looking for more on wiring differences... __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

12-18-2010, 05:13 PM	#8
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/sh...043#post699043 some good info on what year ecu and harness's are compatible __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

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