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Old 12-31-2005, 03:59 AM   #31
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Maybe I am not looking in the right spot but your link didnt provide any balance specs whatsoever. Look, you can preach to me all you want about the similarities of balancing a v style to a inline style motor the fact still remains the inlins 6 has been able to put out more power more safely stock than the v style motors. For example, look at the 350z or even the gs 35 which are the same motor which is a vq35. Now you cant tell me for stock block to stock block that the vq35 is a better motor.

The 2jz stock can put out more than 800to the wheels without any problems. You can barely get a stock vq35 to hit 550 without having internal problems. If you dont beleive me I have the dsport mag and people who own the car to prove it. We can talk all day about these matters but what its going to come down to is what really works and what reality says to us.

I can show you a handful of supras that have reached the benchmark of 800rwhp on stock bottom ends. O the other hand, it would literaly be a challenge for me to find 1 350z or g35 or any other v6 for that matter that has reached that very same mark and works great on the stock bottom end.
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it has NOTHING to do with the fact its a V6.. its what kind of internals were used

leave out the style of motor arguement..
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:08 AM   #32
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and again here

it has NOTHING to do with the fact its a V6.. its what kind of internals were used

leave out the style of motor arguement..
Again, you are misconstruing what I am saying. Any motor can put out any power as long as you have the money to do so. However, what I am saying is for stock block to stock block the cast iron inline blocks are the strongest and can put out more power stock than any v motor can due to the balancing issue. If you didnt touch any internals on a v6 and an inline 6 the inline 6 would be ableto produce more power much more efieciently and without fewer or any problems. If you do this to a v6 because its a v style motor the balancing on the stock bottom ends are usually only able to withstandup to 500whp. If you exceed that on a stock bottom end v6 you will have internal problems. On most cast iron inline 6's(usually refering to the 2jz's) those motors stock bottom ends can withstand up to 800whp fairly easily. Are you getting this now?
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:14 AM   #33
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Again, you are misconstruing what I am saying. Any motor can put out any power as long as you have the money to do so. However, what I am saying is for stock block to stock block the cast iron inline blocks are the strongest and can put out more power stock than any v motor can due to the balancing issue. If you didnt touch any internals on a v6 and an inline 6 the inline 6 would be ableto produce more power much more efieciently and without fewer or any problems. If you do this to a v6 because its a v style motor the balancing on the stock bottom ends are usually only able to withstandup to 500whp. If you exceed that on a stock bottom end v6 you will have internal problems. On most cast iron inline 6's(usually refering to the 2jz's) those motors stock bottom ends can withstand up to 800whp fairly easily. Are you getting this now?
umm no your wrong.. cast iron 2uz-fe can put out 1500hp.. celica drag car..

your comparing a 2jz vs a 1uz?
then stop saying a inline 6 can do this more then V style motor.. if not i can name MANY inline 6 engines that cant withstand as much power as a stock 1uz-fe

again it has nothing to do with the fact its a INLINE 6... its just that its a 2JZ .. its built like a TANK in the buttom end.. if i had forged goodies on a 1uz-fe or a 2uz-fe or even a 5vz-fe it will make a better powerband

your missing out a big point here.. its not the fact its a cast iron block only.. lots of toyota engines are cast iron blocks.. and if you wanna talk plainly about block then a 3sgte can go up to 700whp before it cracks.. an engine thats 1/3 smaller then a 2jz..

the point again is that the 2jz comes with forged goodies.. thats it!.. it has NOTHING to do with the fact its a INLINE 6..
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