Has anyone done a 1UZ-FE MK2 Supra?

[Dboz]

Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Maybe I am not looking in the right spot but your link didnt provide any balance specs whatsoever. Look, you can preach to me all you want about the similarities of balancing a v style to a inline style motor the fact still remains the inlins 6 has been able to put out more power more safely stock than the v style motors. For example, look at the 350z or even the gs 35 which are the same motor which is a vq35. Now you cant tell me for stock block to stock block that the vq35 is a better motor.

The 2jz stock can put out more than 800to the wheels without any problems. You can barely get a stock vq35 to hit 550 without having internal problems. If you dont beleive me I have the dsport mag and people who own the car to prove it. We can talk all day about these matters but what its going to come down to is what really works and what reality says to us.

I can show you a handful of supras that have reached the benchmark of 800rwhp on stock bottom ends. O the other hand, it would literaly be a challenge for me to find 1 350z or g35 or any other v6 for that matter that has reached that very same mark and works great on the stock bottom end.

okee the I6 vs V shaped motors .. i think your very wrong on that.. people with mustangs can pump out 800rwhp easily with very little money.. its a V8 and they dont run into balancing issues..

the I6 idea of better balancing is not the issue why the 2jz makes monster power relatively easily.. its the whole design of the engine plus the materials used.. forged pistons+rods on a iron cast buttom end.. all toyotas engines have insane crankshafts..

800whp on a stock engine?.. i would think you would have to change the cams to do that.. plus thats on race fuel..


there are daily driven 500whp on street gas 1uz-fe's out there.. 14-15PSI.. stock engine.. its not the buttom end that has the issue with any toyota engines.. alot of them are built like a tank.. vz, jz, uz.. even the 3sgte has a very strong buttom end.. pumping out 400whp on a 2 litre I4 on street gas.. its been done..

oh and here's an article about balancing of a I6 and V6
http://www.autozine.org/technical_sc...ne/smooth3.htm

[suprra_girl]

oh noesssssss... are we having a small debate?? hehe

ya wanted to see 1uz... well here's one
supercharged as well

[Dboz]

Originally Posted by suprra_girl

oh noesssssss... are we having a small debate?? hehe

ya wanted to see 1uz... well here's one
supercharged as well

i found this picture yesturday online

omg its a badass supra.. how much power is he pushing out of that thing? 400whp?

[hangsupra]

sweet car. where did you find it. whats the site to the page.

[suprra_girl]

those two images are hosted on my website.. they are all i have on Ewans mk2

there may possibly be another site with them... which in that case post it up
that mk2 lives about 3 hours away from me

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by Dboz

okee the I6 vs V shaped motors .. i think your very wrong on that.. people with mustangs can pump out 800rwhp easily with very little money.. its a V8 and they dont run into balancing issues..

the I6 idea of better balancing is not the issue why the 2jz makes monster power relatively easily.. its the whole design of the engine plus the materials used.. forged pistons+rods on a iron cast buttom end.. all toyotas engines have insane crankshafts..

800whp on a stock engine?.. i would think you would have to change the cams to do that.. plus thats on race fuel..


there are daily driven 500whp on street gas 1uz-fe's out there.. 14-15PSI.. stock engine.. its not the buttom end that has the issue with any toyota engines.. alot of them are built like a tank.. vz, jz, uz.. even the 3sgte has a very strong buttom end.. pumping out 400whp on a 2 litre I4 on street gas.. its been done..

oh and here's an article about balancing of a I6 and V6
http://www.autozine.org/technical_sc...ne/smooth3.htm

Again your argument is once again flawed. You cant equivocate a 8cylinder motor to a 6 cylinder one. I am talking about v6/I6. Not V8/I6. And I know all about the V8 as my dad has a mustang GT. Even those motors are having trouble exceed 550rwhp on the stock bottom end. I know this cause we just put a blower on it. Even at 514rwhp it periodically goes into fail safe. There was also a guy that bought a 05 GT and put a blower on it from JBA and it was doing about 565hp and a week later he blew his motor due to a rod bearing cracking in half then caused the piston to bend the valves. This was caused by the inbalance of boost pressure into each cylinder. When this occurs one sides pistons are being pushed down harder while the others arent as much. When this happens on a v8 your crank starts to bend due to the differences of pressure on 2 different places. Ever try making a motor work on a bent crank? Its not a very pretty picture I can assure you. I am sure you can picture the rest.



To your 3rd paragraph. I dont know if you have read my posts but I have repeatedly said A"stock bottom end" I never said stock top end. Of course to get 800hp you will need better airflow. But the bottom end you dont have to touch while as every single v style motor you have to tear apart the bottom end and put better internals and blueprint and balance the motor better.

Inregards to your last paragraph. I agree with you. Every single toyota motor produced has literaly been strong. However, the facts still remain I6 bottom ends are much better to deal with than v6's.

Again let me make myself very clear. In my opinion you can get more power out of a V8 than a I6 but the V8 must be built right for that kind of hp. Now if a v6 was built right I would still say the I6 would be faster if they were the same displacement reason why is becasue a I6 has less metal due to the shape of the motor. A V6 weighs more. Therefore if placed in a vehicle of the same weight the I6 would win due to less weight.

[SKILMATIC]

oh noesssssss... are we having a small debate?? hehe

ya wanted to see 1uz... well here's one
supercharged as well

Wow whose is that? That looks pretty nice.

[suprra_girl]

it's a friend of mine from here in NZ

it built it from the ground up really awesome

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by suprra_girl

it's a friend of mine from here in NZ

it built it from the ground up really awesome

NZ? New zealand? I didnt know they have supras there. You seriously live there? Do you have any pics? You must have seen lord of the rings people there.

[suprra_girl]

lmfao

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1. altho nz is small... we're not that small that we live next to the city that did lord of the rings LOL (no i haven't seen any of them lol)

2. of course we have supras!!!! haha.... check out my sig and you'll see my supra

here in nz we get the japanese cars so rhd and all the options and digital dash that you wish you guys had