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ok... here in New Zealand we have a very large variety of mk3 bodies but here is how you can tell the differences on them regardless of what year the registration ticket says it is ;)
(just as a sidenote these body differences may not apply to northern hemisphere, most of what is shown here is what japan sent to the southern hemisphere :) ) 86 supra bodies.... aerial in back windscreen body moulding looks like this on jdm models (usa used 87 moulding from 86-88) http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/86moulding.jpg windscreen washer jets are small stubby ones like this http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/86washers.jpg 86's also have a parklight switch whereas in nz in 87 they got changed for a coin slot (in the usa i believe they still have parklight switches) 86 supras are also narrow body (flat sides, guards aren't flared out etc) here's a pic of a narrow body & widebody... you can see the yellow one has wider front guards than the white one http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/narrowbody.jpg also as shown above... the white supra is an 86 but had the 89 bumper and spoiler conversion done... so 86-88 = yellow bumper, 89-92 = white bumper (if you look at the turn signals you will notice that they are exactly the same as the yellow ones.. 86-88 turn signals) taillights look like this http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/86lights.jpg factory 86 spoiler shown above 87 bodies... aerial in back windscreen 87 moulding is exclusive, it is not on any other year... you will never mistake an 87 unless someone went through the trouble of changing it all (which i doubt someone would go through the trouble with) 87 moulding comes in 3 colours... burgundy, gray & blue 87 moulding pic http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/87moulding.jpg windscreen washer jets change for 89 to longer nice looking ones http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/89washers.jpg as shown previous... widebody & narrowbody all 87 supras are widebody from the factory the yellow one is an 87 http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/narrowbody.jpg taillights and spoiler are still the same as 86 http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/86lights.jpg 87's also came with seatbelt holders which the 86's didn't come with (in the USA only 89+ got seatbelt holders) http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/seatbeltholder.jpg 87's had a coin slot in replacement of the parklight switch (in nz, not sure of other countries, USA 87's did not come with coin slots factory) 88 bodies... aerial in back windscreen back to narrow body style still retains coin slot no seat belt holders in 88's still have the newer style windscreen washer jets still have 86 style taillights and spoiler back to 86 style moulding |
89-92 bodies...
aerial changes to an automatic one in the right rear quarter in spoiler taillight style also changes spoiler changes to a new 3 piece with spoiler light http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/89lights.jpg body moulding changed http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/89moulding.jpg windscreen washer jets are still the long sleek nice ones all are widebody (but..... generally the ga70 1ggte is an exception to the rule) front bumper changed as well as turn signals have a look at the front bumper and turn signals between these two.. the turn signals on the purple 89 are shorter and have little black grills rather than the yellow one which has one grill that spreads right between the two http://www.supra.co.nz/bodydiff/facelift.jpg if you have any other questions on body diff's post em up and i'll answer them the best i can ;) |
very nice... are all those cars yours? the yellow one is very clean, but the white one looks like it needs some body work and a wash.
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lol yes all of them live on our property + another two..
the white one in the pic with the yellow one was my mums one, the white one that needs a clean we are stripping for parts and the purple one is also my mums old supra... shes on to her third now which is the black one i took pictures of the taillights the yellow one is my baby ;) |
wow your mom is cool
my mom drives a honda oddesy, and doesnt want me to get a car |
I like the yellow one :-) cant think why lol
All the info is cool suprra_girl thanks, i still cant work out which mine is but thanks lol it might help if i look at the door mouldings but i'll have to find where i put em lol |
:lol: yea yellow is cool :P
well ur in the US aye das... so usa cars from what i was told from 86-88 use the same moulding as our 87.. so you don't get the ugly grey old moulding lol... so have a look at the 87 moulding and that will probly be your moulding, if your car was white your moulding will be a greyish colour, blue = blue moulding and burgundy = burgundy.. lots of thought went into that statement :P so USA cars... from 86-88 you all use the 87 moulding i posted above... don't change it to 89-92.. 87 moulding is the coolest LOL oh and das... are your pics working for your car yet.. i noticed they went down a while ago and i think urs is 86-88 if i remember correctly your lights are 86-88 with them funny rear marker lights hehe |
firstly i am in the UK not usa lol,
Not sure about the pics thing, i noticed they dissapeared but the link i posted still works fine and the pics are still up there The car was originally a dark red/burgandy colour but i am sure the mouldings were just plain, either grey or i think they were probably black |
haha honestly i knew that... i was in a funny rambling mood last nite
ahhh good long as they're back up ;).. it seems that this forum isn't allowing me to link directly to the webshots site to show the pics on here that's why i thought it was down hehe if ur car was burgundy, then your moulding was also burgundy ;) |
what is the difference between 86 and 85.5 ?
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there are 86.5 mk3's... mid year toyota bought out the mk3 supra pre 86.5 they had the mk2's celica/supra shape
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CAN I HAVE ONE!? :D
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my mom can't have a supra... she'd tear the crap out of it. she's gone through more cars than there are days in a year....are there major differences between the 89-92 supras? i know the 90 had the airbag system, thats about it..
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can i put 89 3 peice tail lights, front bumper, seats, rear hatch, fenders, hood, motor, harness, and rear into my 87 n/a???? very important that i know these things
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can i put 89 3 peice tail lights, front bumper, seats, rear hatch, fenders, hood, motor, harness, and rear into my 87 n/a???? very important that i know these things
well depending on where in the world you are will determine fenders japanese pre 89 cars didn't always come widebody if your car is usdm you only need to change: seats, tails, front bumper, turn signals, grills spoiler to become 89+ style if you are a japanese supra (ga70 to be specific) you need: fenders, seats, front bumper, tails, turn signals, grills spoiler if you are an 87 japanese ma70 all you require is: tails, front bumper, spoiler, turn signals, grills |
both of my supras are usdm so i can swap all the things i mention i guess no?
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absolutely everything on an a70 chassis is swappable
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thnx!!!!!! that was very helpful:bow:
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WOAH ok I have a 86.5.... what exactly is the difference between widebodys and "normal" ones? what are the two widths and when were they offered??
Just curious to see what mine is. does anyone have a key for reading the chassis codes to see what my car originally came equipped with?? or an account to free carfax reports? i'm remotely curious about my car's history. |
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if you are in America all supras were widebody there (these body differences apply to japanese and some american) |
just wanted to say good job on the yellow supra build. looks nice!
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thanks guys :D
i grafted the 1jz manifold onto the 7mgte lower runners :) |
In the USA, the 1988 HAD seatbelt holders. ('86.5 and '87 did not)
The mirrors of the '86.5, '87, 88 were 'molded' more to the body...'89 they went to a mirror that had more of an aerodynamic 'hole' in it. (sorry, no pic) The easiest way to spot and 87 Vs. an '88 was the '87 had a rectangle/square spoiler brake light (no pic) the '88 went to a more angled brake light. (Only the Turbo's through 1988 came stock with spoiler) Pictures here are my stock and original body (except wheels) 1988 Turbo. I am the original owner. Purchased in November 1987. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...AfterTEIN2.jpg http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...aRaceReady.jpg http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...01/DEVOTOY.jpg |
Does anybody know anything about Canadian models? I bought my '87 thinking it was just a normal usdm '87 Supra, until one day my friend points at a button and says, "What's that?" It was the button for the headlight washers. I later read somewhere that only Canadian models have headlight washers. I also have the coin slot, where earlier in this thread it was mentioned that US Supra's don't have coin slots.
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Here in the USA, the MK3 had the headlite washers from '86-'88, then they deleted that option/feature. I read that Canada got heated seats. This is typical to delete features when the manufacture opts for new features, such as the new front bumper and rear spoiler to name a few. I believe they did that to reduce the manufactures cost. I had a '90 Mustang GT and the center arm rest was deleted due to the addition of the airbag.
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Sweet, that makes more sense, thanks guys.
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86.5 and older were the 2ed gen supras or celica supras. do you homework
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there are already a number of usdm body difference threads, this thread in particular pertains to JDM
I have created a site dedicated to the jdm body differences here My Car gallery Yes 86.5 & earlier were known as the celica supra or just plain old celica but theres no need to be rude about it ;) |
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After looking at several other sports cars while driving a Fiat in 1986 I decided the Supra was for me. I bought my one and only that I still have today in Nov. 1987 (1988 model). If you found information that says 1986.5 was NOT the first MK3 model...it is wrong. Don't believe everything you read...especially on the internet. Learn to do proper homework. |
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Hey im pretty new to this. but i luv the older supras!
luv the yellow mk3! Just wondering. is it possible to buy the seatbelt guides and fitting them to older seats or would you have to buy a new seat? btw i dont own one, i just luv them and i'm pretty much just researching them! cheers |
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thanks for all the mk3 info, do you have like supra trees? because with all the ones on your property its liek you grow them.... can i get one? lololol
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How much does a Draped Bust coin cost?
How much does a Draped Bust coin start cost?(Sorry for my Eng) I ask a pen-pal to see if it's veritable he said it is, down repay a collage professor i met said so. It's in friendly body, proper the top communistic scrap is kinda scratched.How much do you meditate on it's worth? pic of coin is here: http://coindad.com/coin/Cent_1803_F.jpg"http://coindad.com/coin/Cent_1803_F.jpg
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Oh and nice cars btw haha, can't wait till mines done. But you have quite the collection in your family. |
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wtf? hiiiiiijaaaack |
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