fuel injectors

salomon68 · 01-23-2008, 12:14 AM

i have put in a rebuilt engine into my 87 supra and it won't start up. one fuel injector is reading too much resistance and another one is leaking. they are the original injectors. i was thinking about just replacing all of them. any suggestions?

Pretaco · 01-23-2008, 04:24 PM

Does it even try to start, sputter or anything.
Usually if one or two injectors are bad, the engine will still start, just run crappy. Check for fuel pressure, spark, timing, compression, and if all that is good then look at the injectors.

salomon68 · 01-23-2008, 06:15 PM

i tried starter-fluid at one point and had a fireball come out of the intake, so i am getting spark. also, i have new spark plugs, wires, rotor, and distributor cap on it. i've installed a new Walbro fuel pump and it is working. when i tried starting the car after installing the fuel pump, i heard a faint pop. kinda like pressure being quickly released. that's when i found that the #2 injector was leaking fuel (bad o-ring). the engine is a professionally rebuilt 7M-GE. the engine came already timed with a timing belt on it and it has a 3 year warranty. i'm assuming the compression and timing are fine.

Pretaco · 01-23-2008, 08:22 PM

Have you tested ignition timing yet? If the injectors are bad, starter fluid should have started the car for at least a couple of seconds. If it backfires out of the intake, its usually caused by bad ignition timing, i.e. the distributor isn't installed correctly, or the firing order is wrong.
A timing light will work even if the engine won't run.

salomon68 · 01-23-2008, 09:40 PM

i did forget to mention the starter fluid did make it run for just a couple of seconds.

Pretaco · 01-23-2008, 10:17 PM

Is the ecu grounded?
The two white around black wires and the brown one next to them? And the case too. You may have a problem like mine was, when I grounded the case of my ecu, it started right up.
If you have a stethscope listen to the injectors, they should click.
You can also use a long screwdriver, just put your ear on the handle.
Or get a noid light and hook it up to the injector plug to see if they are getting grounded by the ecu.

btwilson86 · 01-25-2008, 04:31 PM

Also check the distributor... When I put in my JDM 7MGE, I installed the distributor wrong. It would sputter on the starter spray at a few hundred RPM's for a few seconds, then just die off. I had mine 180 out- firing on the exhaust stroke, not the compression. So all it was doing was backfiring.

salomon68 · 01-26-2008, 06:16 AM

i know i have those white wires and the one brown wire grounded cause that was a problem at first. the engine wouldn't even turn over until i grounded those. i will check on the ecu case and the injectors to see if they are grounded. i'll also check on the timing, that sounds promising. thanks a lot! i'll post back.

01-23-2008, 12:14 AM	#1
salomon68 Stock Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 10	fuel injectors i have put in a rebuilt engine into my 87 supra and it won't start up. one fuel injector is reading too much resistance and another one is leaking. they are the original injectors. i was thinking about just replacing all of them. any suggestions?

01-23-2008, 08:22 PM	#4
Pretaco 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 126	Have you tested ignition timing yet? If the injectors are bad, starter fluid should have started the car for at least a couple of seconds. If it backfires out of the intake, its usually caused by bad ignition timing, i.e. the distributor isn't installed correctly, or the firing order is wrong. A timing light will work even if the engine won't run. __________________ '88 Supra Targa 5 speed w/ '90 7M-GTE Currently Running Good For Sale: Light blue body parts, Blue interior parts all from '90 supra targa turbo manual. Also for sale: R154 trans, brake pedal, master cylinder, booster, abs actuator, sensors, abs ecu, driveshaft, 3.90 lsd rear end, radiator, wiring, speedo cable, 8 saw blade wheels, '88 ecu, relays, cruise control actuator (bad cable), empty fuel tank, etc....

01-23-2008, 10:17 PM	#6
Pretaco 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 126	Is the ecu grounded? The two white around black wires and the brown one next to them? And the case too. You may have a problem like mine was, when I grounded the case of my ecu, it started right up. If you have a stethscope listen to the injectors, they should click. You can also use a long screwdriver, just put your ear on the handle. Or get a noid light and hook it up to the injector plug to see if they are getting grounded by the ecu. __________________ '88 Supra Targa 5 speed w/ '90 7M-GTE Currently Running Good For Sale: Light blue body parts, Blue interior parts all from '90 supra targa turbo manual. Also for sale: R154 trans, brake pedal, master cylinder, booster, abs actuator, sensors, abs ecu, driveshaft, 3.90 lsd rear end, radiator, wiring, speedo cable, 8 saw blade wheels, '88 ecu, relays, cruise control actuator (bad cable), empty fuel tank, etc....

01-25-2008, 04:31 PM	#7
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Also check the distributor... When I put in my JDM 7MGE, I installed the distributor wrong. It would sputter on the starter spray at a few hundred RPM's for a few seconds, then just die off. I had mine 180 out- firing on the exhaust stroke, not the compression. So all it was doing was backfiring. __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

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01-23-2008, 04:24 PM	#2
Pretaco 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 126	Does it even try to start, sputter or anything. Usually if one or two injectors are bad, the engine will still start, just run crappy. Check for fuel pressure, spark, timing, compression, and if all that is good then look at the injectors. __________________ '88 Supra Targa 5 speed w/ '90 7M-GTE Currently Running Good For Sale: Light blue body parts, Blue interior parts all from '90 supra targa turbo manual. Also for sale: R154 trans, brake pedal, master cylinder, booster, abs actuator, sensors, abs ecu, driveshaft, 3.90 lsd rear end, radiator, wiring, speedo cable, 8 saw blade wheels, '88 ecu, relays, cruise control actuator (bad cable), empty fuel tank, etc....

01-23-2008, 06:15 PM	#3
salomon68 Stock Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 10	i tried starter-fluid at one point and had a fireball come out of the intake, so i am getting spark. also, i have new spark plugs, wires, rotor, and distributor cap on it. i've installed a new Walbro fuel pump and it is working. when i tried starting the car after installing the fuel pump, i heard a faint pop. kinda like pressure being quickly released. that's when i found that the #2 injector was leaking fuel (bad o-ring). the engine is a professionally rebuilt 7M-GE. the engine came already timed with a timing belt on it and it has a 3 year warranty. i'm assuming the compression and timing are fine.

01-23-2008, 09:40 PM	#5
salomon68 Stock Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 10	i did forget to mention the starter fluid did make it run for just a couple of seconds.

01-26-2008, 06:16 AM	#8
salomon68 Stock Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 10	i know i have those white wires and the one brown wire grounded cause that was a problem at first. the engine wouldn't even turn over until i grounded those. i will check on the ecu case and the injectors to see if they are grounded. i'll also check on the timing, that sounds promising. thanks a lot! i'll post back.