sorry bill i dont know where you mean bill:frown:

i dont see anything in the first pic but in the third i see a wire that appears to come out of the valve cover gasket but its really the ground for the coil packs

hi people glourious day but yet again im stuck,
the 2 vsv valces i cant see where there ment to sit in the engine i ve got the wires connected except the one that comes out of the rear vsv? but can see where to bolt the actual valves to. this is the only bit i really need to do befroe i put the plenum on.

need some pics please of where they sit. many thanks guys.

Are these any good Andy, the red X on the bolt head is only there as a reference for each pic,
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...f/DSCF3410.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...f/DSCF3411.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...f/DSCF3412.jpg

Nice one Andy, is that a camera lead poking out between the head and gasket in the first pic.?

thanks those pitures help a bit, the strange thing is i noticed on trsm that the vsv at the rear has a small tube coming off it leading to the 45 degree angle solid line, mine has a long piece of tubing which came from the top of the plenum.??? whys mine different??:help: yet again.

the trsm shows that the tubing mine goes to is incorect.

if people could give a few pics to me of this part of the car and sourrounding pictures so im can use wsome as guidance when putting everything back together. the more the merryier.

my 2 cents
 

i'd replace them with new ones
they don't seem like much but they do effect the air/fuel mixture
where they bolt or hang from isn't as important

here are some pics to show where my lines run to notice at the top ofthe pllenum, where ones blanked off and the other leads behind the plenum going to the vsv valvve though in the other pic of the engine(borrowed pic)
it has 2 pipes running if diffrent directions to mine?

if you look at the pic i posted before you will see that the one port blocked off would goto the bvsv on the thermostat housing (i dont know if you fellas in the uk have this, that would explain it being blocked off). as long as you have all the connections right, you dont need to use those metal lines. personally i see them as more possibilities of a vacuum leak.

edit: from your pics it looks as if someone tried to elimnate the use of the metal lines.

yeah you right cause the vsv still geos to the right place just bypassing the lines