1jzgte Swap
 

How much time/money would I need if I were to do a 1jzgte swap into my 87 n/a?

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By the way Nate car looks nice. On the subject of your question I have been there done that and Nate has to it would be easier to buy one that has already done the swap much cheaper. I will honestly say I bought my car for 1400 and invested a lot into it to go 1J on one hand it is worth it on the other it would be easier to start with a 89+ than with a 87 because of the differing mount issue. Another question I have for you is how mechanically savy are you because if you have someone do it for you then they are going to litterally rape you in the butt with a pine cone. The labor involved is decent and most places will charge 50 dollars a hour or more. Once I had all of the parts for mine it was a a few days worth of work in itself.

I have a good idea of what it take to do an engine swap. My dad's a mechanic, and he helped me swap an engine on my first car (90 Buick Lesabre) after the engine in that died. Plus a couple of my friends are mechanics or are going to school for that.

Well then I would recommend buying a clip because you will need the body harnesses and it is also nice to see what it needs to look like when your done. Getting a clip is gonna be fun and expensive. Then you need to decide if you want to use the hydro fan or get a electric or go with the 2JZ clutch fan. I would recommend going to driftmotion to get a throttle cable, power steering line, and other things like the engine mount adapters. Then decide if you want to extend the engine harness or cut a new hole in the firewall. What I am basically getting at is getting the clip and motor is not even half of the stuff you will need to worry about. It does get costly and another thing to think about is did the place you got the clip look at or change out the caps in the ECU. Pretty much from what I have seen and even on mine 9 times out of 10 they will fail and your car will become a mosquito fogger. Most of the time you can find someone selling a 1JZ converted car for less than it would cost to do it yourself. But then again most people wont buy one that is already done because they dont know much about the car. Like me I tried to sell mine and all I found were people wanting to go on a joy ride but they found they werent allowed to drive just ride. I have put to much work into my car to have someone dog it.

Oh, it's very expensive operation...
In Russia it costs about 4-5K $ depends of the cars year.
87' car will need to make handmade engine mounts...
Your car a/t or m/t?
If m/t, yuo'll need 1jz clutch bell for w58 gearbox...it costs about 400-500$

nevermind, I was thinking it would cost around $2k. I guess I'll just turbo the 7mge. By the way, it's a 5 speed.

You know, it's not a very good idea...but it's up to to you...

Well, I already know what I need and how much it will cost me time and money wise to turbo the 7mge. I think I'm gonna stick with that plan, but not till after I do some head work first (valves, springs, cams, cam gears, and of course the gasket itself).

That's right with head. It's the weakest place in 7M engine.
Don't forget to buy new head bolts, it's very important.
And if I was in your shoes, I'd inspected cylinder block, and changed piston rings, con rod and main bearings to be sure in engine for 100%...especialy if your gonna to put a turbo on it

I'll look into that as well, but I have a spare head, so I'll work on that first. I plan on getting the hks gasket and using the arp head studs. With that combo, the gasket should last for awhile, espaecially since I plan to only run like 7-9 psi.

why dont you drop a 7mgte right in there

I was planning on going with the arp studs and hks gasket when i do the head gasket. I'll look at the block/bottom end when i swap the heads.I can't really do that now because my supra is my daily driver right now until I fix my accord. I going to start with the head work tho, since i have the spare head laying around in the garage. http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...ons/icon10.gif

By the way. Which cams are better? Crower 264, or Crower 272?

why dont you just shop around for a 7mgte?

Yeah the GTE is FAR cheaper than building a GE into a turbo motor. Do you know all the parts that make a GTE what it is as opposed to a GE? Crazy parts to make it reliable.

I suggest you find a 7MGTE, and swap your GE for it. MUCH LESS HEADACHE. I was gonna do the same thing, but I was told by numerous others who tried it to do the swap instead, but I have a 90. So the mounts for the 1JZ are there. I just have to worry about wiring and drivetrain.

The wiring for the 1JZ isn't that hard really as long as you take the time like I did and put in new harness plugs instead of soldering the connections for the four plugs you have to replace. I just bought some harness plugs that had enough pin holes to work and then bought the pins and did mine that way. As for the main engine harness you don't have to extend it you can always use the tuck like most people do it helps keep the integrity of the original harness.

Well, it will be a while before I could turbo the car or do a swap. I will be setting a side money whenever I can to do this this project. I will also have to find a second car before then, as the supra is my only car right now. If it looks like it might be cheaper to do a 7mgte swap, I just might.

Buy a *7mgte*, unless you plan on buying everything exactly down to the needle, 7mge's don't have the oil sprayers in the block, trust me you want those. Other thing is, you will need to rebuild the engine if plan to turbo it, and usually that requires you to remove it, so why not swap it with a 7mgte.

Well, I'm trying to find a turbo block because of the oil sprayers. If I can find a block, I can pair it with the spare head I have, and basically build my own image. But If I have to, I will rebuild the block I have. By the way, will the crank have to be replaced, or is the stock one pretty beefy?

Thanks for the tip. Me & my friend used to argue about this topic. But I'm on GTE right now.

I have a question bout a swap. i just put a 1jz in my 90 supra and have been anxiously awaiting to hear it run however it turns over strong but wont start. i just replaced the fuel pump thinking that was the problem and after all the work to drop the tank i still came up with the same result. just curious if you would have any pointers or suggestions as to what it might be.

I have a question bout a swap. I just put a 1jz in my 90 supra and have been anxiously awaiting to hear it run however it turns over strong but wont start. i just replaced the fuel pump thinking that was the problem and after all the work to drop the tank i still came up with the same result. just curious if you would have any pointers or suggestions as to what it might be. Also is there anywhere i could get a book on the 1jz for servicing it.

just put down payment today for 1jz
 

I handed over $3200.00 for the engine and shipping today.I know I am going into a money pit but this will the last sports car I own.I am starting with a immaculate low mile targa loaded 5 speed.So this swap will complete the dream.Its just money.lol:(

by the way Bicperformance.com fabricates a few things including engine mounts for the pre 89 1jz swap. they are doing the swap for me.