04-13-2009, 02:48 PM | #1 |
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1jzgte Swap
How much time/money would I need if I were to do a 1jzgte swap into my 87 n/a?
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04-14-2009, 05:00 AM | #2 |
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alot/more.......
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04-16-2009, 12:19 AM | #3 |
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By the way Nate car looks nice. On the subject of your question I have been there done that and Nate has to it would be easier to buy one that has already done the swap much cheaper. I will honestly say I bought my car for 1400 and invested a lot into it to go 1J on one hand it is worth it on the other it would be easier to start with a 89+ than with a 87 because of the differing mount issue. Another question I have for you is how mechanically savy are you because if you have someone do it for you then they are going to litterally rape you in the butt with a pine cone. The labor involved is decent and most places will charge 50 dollars a hour or more. Once I had all of the parts for mine it was a a few days worth of work in itself.
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04-16-2009, 02:11 PM | #4 |
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I have a good idea of what it take to do an engine swap. My dad's a mechanic, and he helped me swap an engine on my first car (90 Buick Lesabre) after the engine in that died. Plus a couple of my friends are mechanics or are going to school for that.
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04-16-2009, 08:58 PM | #5 |
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Well then I would recommend buying a clip because you will need the body harnesses and it is also nice to see what it needs to look like when your done. Getting a clip is gonna be fun and expensive. Then you need to decide if you want to use the hydro fan or get a electric or go with the 2JZ clutch fan. I would recommend going to driftmotion to get a throttle cable, power steering line, and other things like the engine mount adapters. Then decide if you want to extend the engine harness or cut a new hole in the firewall. What I am basically getting at is getting the clip and motor is not even half of the stuff you will need to worry about. It does get costly and another thing to think about is did the place you got the clip look at or change out the caps in the ECU. Pretty much from what I have seen and even on mine 9 times out of 10 they will fail and your car will become a mosquito fogger. Most of the time you can find someone selling a 1JZ converted car for less than it would cost to do it yourself. But then again most people wont buy one that is already done because they dont know much about the car. Like me I tried to sell mine and all I found were people wanting to go on a joy ride but they found they werent allowed to drive just ride. I have put to much work into my car to have someone dog it.
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04-17-2009, 01:05 PM | #6 |
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Oh, it's very expensive operation...
In Russia it costs about 4-5K $ depends of the cars year. 87' car will need to make handmade engine mounts... Your car a/t or m/t? If m/t, yuo'll need 1jz clutch bell for w58 gearbox...it costs about 400-500$
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04-17-2009, 05:37 PM | #7 |
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nevermind, I was thinking it would cost around $2k. I guess I'll just turbo the 7mge. By the way, it's a 5 speed.
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04-20-2009, 05:05 AM | #8 |
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You know, it's not a very good idea...but it's up to to you...
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04-21-2009, 01:38 PM | #9 |
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Well, I already know what I need and how much it will cost me time and money wise to turbo the 7mge. I think I'm gonna stick with that plan, but not till after I do some head work first (valves, springs, cams, cam gears, and of course the gasket itself).
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04-21-2009, 01:50 PM | #10 |
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That's right with head. It's the weakest place in 7M engine.
Don't forget to buy new head bolts, it's very important. And if I was in your shoes, I'd inspected cylinder block, and changed piston rings, con rod and main bearings to be sure in engine for 100%...especialy if your gonna to put a turbo on it
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