i really need advice

89targa · 07-31-2005, 04:36 AM

ok here we go. i got my 89 non turbo recently. i was driving it and i heard a whoosh noise. then smoke came out of the hood and the car died. it started and i made it home barely before it overheated. my friend says its the water pump. is that hard to fix? also i need to change the plugs and wires. but i cant reach the middle back 3. theres stuff in the way....engine stuff. ive ALWAYS had someone else fix my cars before. but i love this car sooo much! i want to learn. where can i go on the net to get skematics to fix it step by step? also...my brother cleaned my engine while i was sleeping today and now there is water drowning the plugs...yeah. the guy at autozone said take of the wire and turn the engine over to blow it out...but i dont think so. is it ok to do that? i need a valve cover gasket too. is that hard? i just got a settlement so i can afford all this. i really love this car. any advice at all would be really appreciated. thanx

daiagaru2 · 07-31-2005, 06:00 AM

a whoosh sound and smoke from under the hood,this sound more like instantly blowing the head gasket,the water pump is more likely to blow bearings out than cause what you discribe.these cars are renound for head gasket problems,have the compression tested if the test comes back and there is a big discrepincy in the cylinder preasures and they are not in normal perameters the head gaket is blown,or the block is cracked in wich case you'd have to take the engine to a machinist to see what has to be done to make it work correctly if at all.machining the block deck surface and the head deck surface is crucial to properly repairing a bhg,also you'd have to include a new metal head gasket to complete the package torque to 72-75 ft lb.this will gaurantee a good "head job"if you have water in the plug holes try to use a wet dry vac to help you clean them out,if water is in the engine drain the oil and flush it out with new oil.i don't want you to panic,and by the way replacing the water pump is easy,but i doubt this is the root of the problem,unless the water pump failing lead to an over heating issue wich would blow the head gasket from the extreme heat that prolonge usage under such circumstancas would be cause such damage.if you want to get to the pluggs you have to gut it out and lable what hose goes were and remove the entire throttle body assembly,then and only then can you get to the pluggs.a valve cover gasket is not hard at all,you must know that you must remove the entire throttle body to remove the vave cover to replace the gasket,make sure to use liquid gaket maker to seal up the machine pressed steel at each end of the head.last advice invest in lots of tools,you will need them.hope this help, laters!

Poodles · 07-31-2005, 06:23 AM

Yeah, changing plugs is a royal pain (might explain why mine where in such bad shape from the previous owner). If you have the money, take it to a reputable shop and have them look it over and find out everything that's wrong. Could be a lot of things, but he's right about the HG. Since it's not a Turbo, you could use the normal replacement HG, but get the bolts torqued down tighter (thinks it's 72ft-lbs).

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07-31-2005, 04:36 AM	#1
89targa Stock Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9	ok here we go. i got my 89 non turbo recently. i was driving it and i heard a whoosh noise. then smoke came out of the hood and the car died. it started and i made it home barely before it overheated. my friend says its the water pump. is that hard to fix? also i need to change the plugs and wires. but i cant reach the middle back 3. theres stuff in the way....engine stuff. ive ALWAYS had someone else fix my cars before. but i love this car sooo much! i want to learn. where can i go on the net to get skematics to fix it step by step? also...my brother cleaned my engine while i was sleeping today and now there is water drowning the plugs...yeah. the guy at autozone said take of the wire and turn the engine over to blow it out...but i dont think so. is it ok to do that? i need a valve cover gasket too. is that hard? i just got a settlement so i can afford all this. i really love this car. any advice at all would be really appreciated. thanx

07-31-2005, 06:00 AM	#2
daiagaru2 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 84	a whoosh sound and smoke from under the hood,this sound more like instantly blowing the head gasket,the water pump is more likely to blow bearings out than cause what you discribe.these cars are renound for head gasket problems,have the compression tested if the test comes back and there is a big discrepincy in the cylinder preasures and they are not in normal perameters the head gaket is blown,or the block is cracked in wich case you'd have to take the engine to a machinist to see what has to be done to make it work correctly if at all.machining the block deck surface and the head deck surface is crucial to properly repairing a bhg,also you'd have to include a new metal head gasket to complete the package torque to 72-75 ft lb.this will gaurantee a good "head job"if you have water in the plug holes try to use a wet dry vac to help you clean them out,if water is in the engine drain the oil and flush it out with new oil.i don't want you to panic,and by the way replacing the water pump is easy,but i doubt this is the root of the problem,unless the water pump failing lead to an over heating issue wich would blow the head gasket from the extreme heat that prolonge usage under such circumstancas would be cause such damage.if you want to get to the pluggs you have to gut it out and lable what hose goes were and remove the entire throttle body assembly,then and only then can you get to the pluggs.a valve cover gasket is not hard at all,you must know that you must remove the entire throttle body to remove the vave cover to replace the gasket,make sure to use liquid gaket maker to seal up the machine pressed steel at each end of the head.last advice invest in lots of tools,you will need them.hope this help, laters!

07-31-2005, 06:23 AM	#3
Poodles 12psi boost Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 348	Yeah, changing plugs is a royal pain (might explain why mine where in such bad shape from the previous owner). If you have the money, take it to a reputable shop and have them look it over and find out everything that's wrong. Could be a lot of things, but he's right about the HG. Since it's not a Turbo, you could use the normal replacement HG, but get the bolts torqued down tighter (thinks it's 72ft-lbs).