Air Conditioning - Page 2

daiagaru2 · 08-09-2005, 06:01 PM

3800lbs!my enemy intelligence grows stronger.

ddmcse · 08-12-2005, 02:50 PM

it's not really the weight of the a/c thats helps when you yank it out .
it's the power thats reclaimed by not being having to turn the a/c compressor , even when the a/c is not "on" it requires some power to turn the pulleys .
i'd yank the PS if the thing was easier to turn at low speeds
10 hp here and there adds up

daiagaru2 · 08-12-2005, 05:13 PM

finally someone with some brains,thank you ddmcse.every little pony counts.

ddmcse · 08-12-2005, 05:38 PM

thanks you can call me dd.
i need to use the redline gear oil that i bought (still sitting in the garage) for the tranny and rear/diff

daiagaru2 · 08-12-2005, 05:49 PM

yep as far as fliuds go you got her nailed,that stuff is the best.

rnoswal · 08-13-2005, 07:49 PM

I would be more concerned as to whether the car could handle the extra heat generated by the A/C. As far as I know, know one races the car with the A/C on. The drag caused by the pulleys are so minimal as to almost be non existant. Now the A/C being on is another story and the further you wind up the engine the more pressure that builds up in the A/C system and more horsepower drag.

If you want to cut weight there are better ways to go, but if it never gets hot where you live then take it out! Find a different rear end gear for the car and put better cams in it. I still can't believe that the intake goes from a beautiful oval shape in each of the intake ports, to a 3 inch hole to suck air in. Never understood why no one ever built a better system for that part. A triple Webber setup would make that engine fly!

Check out the Supramania site and figure out what they do to make power. Removing the A/C is last on their list unless they are looking for a tenth of a second.

Just my 2 cents..........Russ

Poodles · 08-14-2005, 03:44 AM

Very very few people remove power steering, but it frees up a LOT of power because pumping hydraulics takes a lot of work. Hell, if I could get a good normal rack and pinion, very dependable electric water pump, ditch the A/C and get an electric fan, I'd only be running the alternator, and it would SCREAM.

But...I don't drag race, and if I did, the supra wouldn't be my choice because of how heavy it is, it's a luxury sports car...

Isphius · 06-19-2006, 04:34 AM

I havent had PS in my car for months, and i dont think it feels like much of a difference power wise. The car isnt hard to drive with manual steering. I deliver pizza in it and i do fine lol. Plus, It realllly improves the feel handling wise. You can feel it getting loose, and...i dunno hard to describe but its fun on the highway and through twisty roads. Just stop being a nancy boy and take the ps pump out. JK. But it isnt hard, just u-turns suck. I just plan all my parking so i have to backup, cause its real easy to steer when your going back. And with the AC thing, Think of how much a house AC weighs. Probably like 60 lbs. And they cool off a volume much bigger than the cockpit of a car.

08-12-2005, 02:50 PM	#12
ddmcse 500whp yet? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CT U.S.A. Posts: 966	it's not really the weight of the a/c thats helps when you yank it out . it's the power thats reclaimed by not being having to turn the a/c compressor , even when the a/c is not "on" it requires some power to turn the pulleys . i'd yank the PS if the thing was easier to turn at low speeds 10 hp here and there adds up __________________ 300+ RW HP Dyno run, jdm,mod turbo,3"exh,electfan,greddyboost Blown HeadGasket info My Supra KiXGaS

08-12-2005, 05:38 PM	#14
ddmcse 500whp yet? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CT U.S.A. Posts: 966	thanks you can call me dd. i need to use the redline gear oil that i bought (still sitting in the garage) for the tranny and rear/diff __________________ 300+ RW HP Dyno run, jdm,mod turbo,3"exh,electfan,greddyboost Blown HeadGasket info My Supra KiXGaS

06-19-2006, 04:34 AM	#18
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	I havent had PS in my car for months, and i dont think it feels like much of a difference power wise. The car isnt hard to drive with manual steering. I deliver pizza in it and i do fine lol. Plus, It realllly improves the feel handling wise. You can feel it getting loose, and...i dunno hard to describe but its fun on the highway and through twisty roads. Just stop being a nancy boy and take the ps pump out. JK. But it isnt hard, just u-turns suck. I just plan all my parking so i have to backup, cause its real easy to steer when your going back. And with the AC thing, Think of how much a house AC weighs. Probably like 60 lbs. And they cool off a volume much bigger than the cockpit of a car. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

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rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	I would be more concerned as to whether the car could handle the extra heat generated by the A/C. As far as I know, know one races the car with the A/C on. The drag caused by the pulleys are so minimal as to almost be non existant. Now the A/C being on is another story and the further you wind up the engine the more pressure that builds up in the A/C system and more horsepower drag. If you want to cut weight there are better ways to go, but if it never gets hot where you live then take it out! Find a different rear end gear for the car and put better cams in it. I still can't believe that the intake goes from a beautiful oval shape in each of the intake ports, to a 3 inch hole to suck air in. Never understood why no one ever built a better system for that part. A triple Webber setup would make that engine fly! Check out the Supramania site and figure out what they do to make power. Removing the A/C is last on their list unless they are looking for a tenth of a second. Just my 2 cents..........Russ

08-14-2005, 03:44 AM	#17
Poodles 12psi boost Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 348	Very very few people remove power steering, but it frees up a LOT of power because pumping hydraulics takes a lot of work. Hell, if I could get a good normal rack and pinion, very dependable electric water pump, ditch the A/C and get an electric fan, I'd only be running the alternator, and it would SCREAM. But...I don't drag race, and if I did, the supra wouldn't be my choice because of how heavy it is, it's a luxury sports car...