1987 turbo, Need help diagnosing!!!

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 01:36 AM

Hello, I was driving down the freeway, and i noticed the temp was redlined. I pulled over, and let it cool. Started it again. It was missing bad, and blowing tons of white smoke. So i figured the head gasket. I was pulling it apart, and wen i pulled apart the intake, there was water in each port. I did a comp test, and it was, front to back. 125 120 120 120 150 140. The back two cyl hav oil in them. My question, is if it has good comp what is causing the problems. ( running rough, oil on plugs, and water in the intake, water in the oil, and overheating?) Any input would be great, I need to figure this out asap! Thanks

cre · 01-30-2010, 01:53 AM

There are coolant passages running through the throttle body and through the ISCV (Idle Speed Control Valve), inspect them thoroughly for holes and cracks.

As hot as your car got there still exists the possibility you did a good deal of damage... our temp gauge is very misleading as it isn't linear. 1/4" over normal is hot as hell, pegged is head warping hot.

EDIT - I'm moving this thread to the MKIII section.

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 02:15 AM

ok i will. how would have oil got in the cylinders?

cre · 01-30-2010, 02:28 AM

Leaking valve covers slowly pour oil down into the plug galley... when you pull the plug out the oil pours into the cylinder... was there oil on the socket and on the spark plug wire boots? It's very common.

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 02:28 AM

the intake looks good. Is there anything that explains, Water in oil, white smoke out tail pipe, running rough, over heating, oil in the cylinders and water in the intake. I think the water in the intake was from condensation.

cre · 01-30-2010, 02:31 AM

Only other possibilities are BHG, cracked head or cracked block. I didn't see that you mentioned water in the oil... if there was a lot then it's most likely one of these three problems.

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 02:34 AM

If it is a cracked block, or head or a bhg. Then wouldnt it have low compression?

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 02:36 AM

And there wasnt a bunch of water in the oil, the dip stick looked a little whiter than it should b, and under the cap, was white stuff.

cre · 01-30-2010, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylansword

If it is a cracked block, or head or a bhg. Then wouldnt it have low compression?

No, not necessarily. It would fail a leakdown test though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylansword

And there wasnt a bunch of water in the oil, the dip stick looked a little whiter than it should b, and under the cap, was white stuff.

Yup, coolant in oil... that's way too much contamination to be condensation.

You could pressure test the coolant system and see where it starts pouring out of, but it's unnecessary in my opinion...

dylansword · 01-30-2010, 02:51 AM

ok. i/ll do a leak down test. and get back to you. Also it had a new headgasket put on 6mts ago.

01-30-2010, 01:36 AM	#1
dylansword 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: boise id Posts: 50	1987 turbo, Need help diagnosing!!! Hello, I was driving down the freeway, and i noticed the temp was redlined. I pulled over, and let it cool. Started it again. It was missing bad, and blowing tons of white smoke. So i figured the head gasket. I was pulling it apart, and wen i pulled apart the intake, there was water in each port. I did a comp test, and it was, front to back. 125 120 120 120 150 140. The back two cyl hav oil in them. My question, is if it has good comp what is causing the problems. ( running rough, oil on plugs, and water in the intake, water in the oil, and overheating?) Any input would be great, I need to figure this out asap! Thanks

01-30-2010, 01:53 AM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	There are coolant passages running through the throttle body and through the ISCV (Idle Speed Control Valve), inspect them thoroughly for holes and cracks. As hot as your car got there still exists the possibility you did a good deal of damage... our temp gauge is very misleading as it isn't linear. 1/4" over normal is hot as hell, pegged is head warping hot. EDIT - I'm moving this thread to the MKIII section. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

01-30-2010, 02:28 AM	#4
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Leaking valve covers slowly pour oil down into the plug galley... when you pull the plug out the oil pours into the cylinder... was there oil on the socket and on the spark plug wire boots? It's very common. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

01-30-2010, 02:31 AM	#6
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Only other possibilities are BHG, cracked head or cracked block. I didn't see that you mentioned water in the oil... if there was a lot then it's most likely one of these three problems. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

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01-30-2010, 02:15 AM	#3
dylansword 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: boise id Posts: 50	ok i will. how would have oil got in the cylinders?

01-30-2010, 02:34 AM	#7
dylansword 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: boise id Posts: 50	If it is a cracked block, or head or a bhg. Then wouldnt it have low compression?

01-30-2010, 02:36 AM	#8
dylansword 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: boise id Posts: 50	And there wasnt a bunch of water in the oil, the dip stick looked a little whiter than it should b, and under the cap, was white stuff.

01-30-2010, 02:51 AM	#10
dylansword 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: boise id Posts: 50	ok. i/ll do a leak down test. and get back to you. Also it had a new headgasket put on 6mts ago.