Manual VS Auto for Boost Power???

DemonCrest · 03-10-2010, 09:30 AM

I had a long discussion with my coworker from work who is into MKIII Supras as well, and he made a comment to me which I never thought about before but maybe you would all know. He said that Auto MKIII's are be better than Manual MKIII's at building boost.

I dont remember exactly to what extent he meant that or if this was totally a fact proven statement, but I remember he mentioned something to do with when idling Auto MKIII's build up a lot more boost than a Manual does.

Reason I asked him about it was when I was thinking of getting a Turbo model, or else making a turbo on my own, and he was saying go for the Manual one if it doesn't have a turbo, and go for the Auto if it does.

Any thoughts or contributions to this? I dunno how correct down to the facts he is or really how much of a difference, if any there is between the two situations.

Green7mgte · 03-10-2010, 12:54 PM

it's nice to see someone actually promoting the automatics.. everyone I know trashes me for having an auto.

Cyto · 03-10-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green7mgte

it's nice to see someone actually promoting the automatics.. everyone I know trashes me for having an auto.

EVERYONE! lol they all make fun of autos. Every single person. "You have an automatic Supra!?"

But when it comes to race time, they stop hatin'.

Automatic builds CONSTANT boost. Through all 4 gears. It never quits boosting, so it is better for turbocharged vehicles.
Manual is better for certain things, like acceleration, but that's IF you know how to shift.

I usually just shift my auto manually if I wanna show off, but then again the ECT button does the exact same thing as me pushing more rpms and shifting from L-2-D(O/D OFF)-D(O/D ON)

I like manuals because they are fun to drive, and you can hear the boost let out, which is intimidating.

In conclusion, hating on automatic cars can have repercussions..

Automatic builds constant boost, and doesn't let it go until you let off the accelerator, manuals have to re-build boost ever shift.

Hope this helped.

TripleC · 03-10-2010, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyto

EVERYONE! lol they all make fun of autos. Every single person. "You have an automatic Supra!?"

But when it comes to race time, they stop hatin'.

Automatic builds CONSTANT boost. Through all 4 gears. It never quits boosting, so it is better for turbocharged vehicles.
Manual is better for certain things, like acceleration, but that's IF you know how to shift.

I usually just shift my auto manually if I wanna show off, but then again the ECT button does the exact same thing as me pushing more rpms and shifting from L-2-D(O/D OFF)-D(O/D ON)

I like manuals because they are fun to drive, and you can hear the boost let out, which is intimidating.

In conclusion, hating on automatic cars can have repercussions..

Automatic builds constant boost, and doesn't let it go until you let off the accelerator, manuals have to re-build boost ever shift.

Hope this helped.

Completly accurate - SHifting takes time no matter how quick you are. I have a manual and would have to concure with the statement above.

Green7mgte · 03-10-2010, 09:06 PM

a big WHOOT to automatic supra owners everywhere..

TripleC · 03-10-2010, 09:29 PM

would i ever change my manual out NO. would i take an automatic out yes.
Most of us have lower power needs 300-450 i think in this range you have more power with a Manual but with over 450-++++ Auto will just plan drive. no messing around!

cre · 03-11-2010, 06:14 AM

I like both. The manual transmission is a bit lighter and more...well... raw. The auto is great as you don't really lose boost when shifting from one gear to the next.

In a high HP build I prefer auto actually; lower power turbos, either; in N/As... manual... gotta have something to do while you're waiting for the car to get some speed going.

Supra Saiyan · 03-11-2010, 07:30 AM

...Man. Transmission.. All the way.. You can't be seriously thinking auto is more fun.. Sure there are advantages and yes yes I know about Nascar and stuff.. That's more like the newer m3 transmission though.. Really, I feel like Man transmission is just MORE FUN!

I mean seriously.. It's like 7 against 1.. Only one person fan boyed out the Man. Transmission. I gotta back my brotha up..

Man. Transmission.. I mean.. Just look at this --> "MAN TRANSMISSION"

Autos can

MA70-3.0GT · 03-11-2010, 05:11 PM

Sorry but i'm gonna side with the "slushbox"! After all the supra, even by its own designation is a GT car not out n out sportster, and a grand tourer should be easy on the driver. That means no clutch workout and having the choice (which it is on these boxes) not to shift.

Ok a manual box is always gonna be more involving for the driver, and no doubt better on the n/a motor, but you gotta ask yourself what youre in a supra for. Personally i like having the comfort and gadgets while still being able to lay waste to anything upto and including M3s and cossies of the same era, and to this end the auto suits me down to the ground...

bioskyline · 10-13-2010, 03:36 AM

the autos are great till the need work, but i found my car lost speed going from auto to manual.

03-10-2010, 09:30 AM	#1
DemonCrest Stock Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 11	Manual VS Auto for Boost Power??? I had a long discussion with my coworker from work who is into MKIII Supras as well, and he made a comment to me which I never thought about before but maybe you would all know. He said that Auto MKIII's are be better than Manual MKIII's at building boost. I dont remember exactly to what extent he meant that or if this was totally a fact proven statement, but I remember he mentioned something to do with when idling Auto MKIII's build up a lot more boost than a Manual does. Reason I asked him about it was when I was thinking of getting a Turbo model, or else making a turbo on my own, and he was saying go for the Manual one if it doesn't have a turbo, and go for the Auto if it does. Any thoughts or contributions to this? I dunno how correct down to the facts he is or really how much of a difference, if any there is between the two situations.

03-10-2010, 12:54 PM	#2
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	it's nice to see someone actually promoting the automatics.. everyone I know trashes me for having an auto. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

03-10-2010, 09:06 PM	#5
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	a big WHOOT to automatic supra owners everywhere.. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

03-10-2010, 09:29 PM	#6
TripleC 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 103	would i ever change my manual out NO. would i take an automatic out yes. Most of us have lower power needs 300-450 i think in this range you have more power with a Manual but with over 450-++++ Auto will just plan drive. no messing around! __________________ 1JZGTE ,R154, Hallman Boost Controller, HKS bov, HKS Mushroom top Air Filter, HKS Front Mount Intercooler, Greedy Turbo Timer, PLX300 AFC, Custom Divorced Y-pipe, Custom Intercooler Pipeing, RS-R Concept Exhaust, Optima Red Top Battery, Strut bar Brembo Rotors, A1 Traction arms, Megan Coilovers, Stern ST 2 wheels rear 265x30 r19 - front 245x35 r19, New Front Lip, 18 x 8 and 18 x 9 MRR HR2 with whatever for Drift treads 2 additional C12A turbo's(Extra)

03-11-2010, 06:14 AM	#7
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	I like both. The manual transmission is a bit lighter and more...well... raw. The auto is great as you don't really lose boost when shifting from one gear to the next. In a high HP build I prefer auto actually; lower power turbos, either; in N/As... manual... gotta have something to do while you're waiting for the car to get some speed going. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-11-2010, 07:30 AM	#8
Supra Saiyan 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 225	Man transmission ...Man. Transmission.. All the way.. You can't be seriously thinking auto is more fun.. Sure there are advantages and yes yes I know about Nascar and stuff.. That's more like the newer m3 transmission though.. Really, I feel like Man transmission is just MORE FUN! I mean seriously.. It's like 7 against 1.. Only one person fan boyed out the Man. Transmission. I gotta back my brotha up.. Man. Transmission.. I mean.. Just look at this --> "MAN TRANSMISSION" Autos can

03-11-2010, 05:11 PM	#9
MA70-3.0GT 12psi boost Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Crewe, England Posts: 356	Sorry but i'm gonna side with the "slushbox"! After all the supra, even by its own designation is a GT car not out n out sportster, and a grand tourer should be easy on the driver. That means no clutch workout and having the choice (which it is on these boxes) not to shift. Ok a manual box is always gonna be more involving for the driver, and no doubt better on the n/a motor, but you gotta ask yourself what youre in a supra for. Personally i like having the comfort and gadgets while still being able to lay waste to anything upto and including M3s and cossies of the same era, and to this end the auto suits me down to the ground... __________________ '89 MA70 Supra GT aero 3.0turbo JDM, Rebuilt motor, K&N intake, 3" stainless turbo-back. New turbo and braided line kit... '89 Honda NC27 400, NC23 cams, open pipe, PC36a shock & possibly Showa USD forks... '83 Yamaha 29R XJ750E-II, number 69 off the line, only runner in the country? Original except Koni shocks '95 Honda PC26 CB500R, Winter hack, hateful, trying to sell it I'm not paranoid, they really ARE after me!!!

10-13-2010, 03:36 AM	#10
bioskyline 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: powell river bc Posts: 120	the autos are great till the need work, but i found my car lost speed going from auto to manual.

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