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jdmsoup 04-30-2010 04:10 AM

could somebody help me find some stuff?
 
Ok so im a new user and i have an mk3 turbo. and i need some help with some stuff. first of all im in the middle of fixing the infamous 7m head gasket problem and im going ahead and making my car nice again after the last owner messed it up pretty badly and let it sit for a few months. so im wondering if you could help me out with a thread that shows what all i need to delete the a/c system and the carbon canister. i have alot of it deleted but i just need to make sure i get it all. and i also need to know if anybody knows where i can find the 7m-gte stiicker that goes on the timing belt cover as im trying to make everythign nice again any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

86.5 7MGE 04-30-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmsoup (Post 82239)
Ok so im a new user and i have an mk3 turbo. and i need some help with some stuff. first of all im in the middle of fixing the infamous 7m head gasket problem and im going ahead and making my car nice again after the last owner messed it up pretty badly and let it sit for a few months. so im wondering if you could help me out with a thread that shows what all i need to delete the a/c system and the carbon canister. i have alot of it deleted but i just need to make sure i get it all. and i also need to know if anybody knows where i can find the 7m-gte stiicker that goes on the timing belt cover as im trying to make everythign nice again any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

You can also delete the EGR that's used in the emissions system; you'll have to put a block off plate over it they sell them on numerous websites for the supra MKIII.

jdmsoup 04-30-2010 04:36 PM

yeah my egr is already deleted and i have the block off plates already on it. i just need to know the other stuff so i know i get everything.

907mge 05-01-2010 01:22 AM

I wanted to delete my egr too but according to cre it is quite a stupid idea. So you should read up before you start hacking out things. Some time the benefits do not out weigh the disadvantages.

cre 05-01-2010 01:44 AM

The sticker WAS available from the dealer... I'm not sure if it's still available or if it's been discontinued though.

jdmsoup 05-01-2010 05:45 AM

alright man thanks. ill check that out on monday. they guy parked the supra to get his foxbody mustang back on the road. it was pretty sad. but atleast he did do some mods to it before he put it down and they were all good mods too. its got the jdm 7m-gte with ct-26 set at 12 psi with a manual boost controller, trd stage 1 clutch, front mount and hks bov. but im going to make it all look good again and go for some style with a good bit of power im already pushing about 300 to the wheels and im about to throw a greddy front mount, apexi twin chamber bov and full 3' inch exhaust with 3' downpipe on it and some coilovers on it with some wide deep dish rims and re do the interior and paint so its going to be back and looking good and running good like a supra is suposed to. :bigthumb:

jdmsoup 05-01-2010 04:11 PM

well my egr was already deleted when i got the car so yea. and i have no emissions or anything so im taking out anythign i dont need and ive read up on everything about what im going to delete and the a/c pump was already taken off my car so i jsut finished taking the lines and things out.

cre 05-02-2010 12:13 AM

You should find and install a JDM ECU then.

jdmsoup 05-02-2010 02:58 AM

other than like the normal stuff a jdm ecu changes like speed limiter and all of that stuff what benefits would it give me if i got one?

cre 05-02-2010 03:07 AM

It's tuned for the additional heat the engine sees without the EGR present.

I really don't understand why people remove it to begin with... There's no power gain and it's not like the system takes up any room. Cooler combustion temps and better mid load mileage is a win in my book.

907mge 05-02-2010 03:26 AM

Yes I would have to agree after looking at it with the head off you can really see how little space it does take up. And you really can't get rid of the main channel to the intake anyway.

jdmsoup 05-02-2010 04:20 AM

yeah if it wouldnt have already been gone i probably wouldnt care because it does have advantages like cooler temps. but since its already gone and stuff them im not gonna worry about it. but im going to try to find a jdm ecu like you said and install it because im sure it will help with the whole egr system being deleted. thanks for your help man youre a genuis with these cars. :bigthumb:

907mge 05-02-2010 04:37 AM

As far as deleting the evap canister, I wouldn’t. There isn’t much benefit to getting rid of it other than space. It takes the gases from the gas tank and vents them into the intake. And as with the a/c, all you would have to do is take off the belt that runs it. I’d wait til it gets hot to decide if you really want to get rid of it. I’m sure when the clutch is not engaged it really isn’t stealing any power away.

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Media/Supra/...es/MA9328B.gif

cre 05-02-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmsoup (Post 82312)
thanks for your help man youre a genuis with these cars. :bigthumb:

Nah, I just know a lot of people who are and I listen well... and I'm pretty good at research. :D

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Originally Posted by 907mge (Post 82313)
As far as deleting the evap canister, I wouldn’t. There isn’t much benefit to getting rid of it other than space. It takes the gases from the gas tank and vents them into the intake. And as with the a/c, all you would have to do is take off the belt that runs it. I’d wait til it gets hot to decide if you really want to get rid of it. I’m sure when the clutch is not engaged it really isn’t stealing any power away.

This one I researched myself. The evap canister saves a LOT of gas, especially in hot environments on a vehicle which sees a lot of movement (think gallons). The best solution to clear this out of the engine bay is to pick up a smaller unit (like the one from a Toyota Tercel ;) ) and mount it inside the fender.

The main reason people delete the A/C isn't because of the amount of power lost at the pulley (you're right, that's minimal); it's the amount of weight the whole system adds... In my opinion it's better to build for another 5RWHP and keep it... you'll be happier on those toasty days and you won't eliminate half your potential buyers should you decide to sell it down the road.

jdmsoup 05-02-2010 04:58 PM

haha and again the a/c pump was already gone when i bought it too he was just too lazy to take the hoses and things off haha but i mean i never realy had a car with a/c in it so im used to it im just used to riding with the windows down but the good thing is now i can just go with that targa top off haha. but i will definitely look for the tercel canister and mount it out inside the fender because it would probably be easier than removing all of those ling and what not. im just trying to clena up all of that stuff in the engine bay becuase mk3s have alot of clutter in the engine bay and its hard to work on something when everything is in your way haha and im trying to make it have a cleaner look and trying to clean up what he messed up.

jdmsoup 05-02-2010 05:29 PM

oh and i have another question im fixing the headgasket problem like every other 7m owner has to eventually and i was wondering im putting just a stock normal headgasket on and ive been looking for the right torque specifications to torque the head back down to but i cant seem to find one normal answer under all of these other answers. i know that toyota didnt give out the right specificatiosn and didnt do it right but i need to know the right ones ive heard that 72 is the right torque specification but im not sure can you tell me fi this is right or wrong and do you know of a thread or anything of where i can find all of the specifications of everythign i need to know about this. thanks
:rant2:

jdmsoup 05-02-2010 05:37 PM

sorry to keep posting but i keep forgetting all of the stuff i want to ask. haha this will be my first headgasket job on a supra and i want to make sure it all goes perfect and i dont mess this up because i only have enough money for this one time and i was wondering if anybody knew somethign that had somewhat of a step by step thing or something that gave me tips for the job or anything any help would be super appreciated guys :bigthumb:

907mge 05-02-2010 09:38 PM

I just did my hg and its a pain the first time. I think I could do it in about half the time now. You should follow the tsrm except for the torque spec on the head bolts. I just went with the arp head studs to be safe. The spec for them is 90ftlbs. And remember to clean out the threads in the block well before reassembling. This site will have all the info you need.

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/

jdmsoup 05-03-2010 12:21 AM

alright man thanks. thats going to help me tons. i was going to get somebody else to do it but im been pretty successful in everything else ive ever did like rebuild a motor and things so im sure i can tackle this its jsut that this is my daily driver and my personal money and i dont have alot because so ive heard mk3 owners are always broke haha which ive learned is very true haha so thanks for the help

907mge 05-03-2010 01:34 AM

And remember it is always recommmended if you use a mhg to have both surfaces(block and head) machined flat and smooth.

jdmsoup 05-03-2010 01:38 AM

im running short on funds so im going to be using a stock headgasket. but im probably going to be getting arp studs so it doesnt happen again

907mge 05-03-2010 01:46 AM

I used a felpro hg and used the copper spray made by Permatex, Cre recommended. It is said to keep the gasket from drying out and help it seal better. It shold be sold about every auto part store. Also make sure to be very carful when pulling things apart. Vsv's are easy to break and hard to replace.

jdmsoup 05-03-2010 02:05 AM

yeah im using felpro also. and i will definitely look into buying that stuff. if it works i will definitely buy it. and i have one of my friends helping me take it apart and put it back together so im going to be very easy that i dont mess anythign up because low funds suck so yeah. im going to be super careful so i dont break anything. :nono:

supraflymkiii 05-06-2010 04:33 AM

I have a set up of ARP Head bolts for sale they were in my Supras engine when I bought it but I had put ARP Head Studs in my Cressida engine. So I kept the studs from the Cressida to put in my Supra engine. If you want them I'm asking $65 shipped for them.

And you're not making no 300 horse at the wheels with the minor mods you have. Especially if you don't even have a full 3" turbo back exhaust yet.

jdmsoup 05-06-2010 06:09 PM

oh i meant to put that after i get this build done i should be putting out about that much. well im hoping for it. and ill definitely take you up on that offer man. it would save me alot of money too. if you wouldnt mind pm me and we can talk about payment and location and things. thanks.

supraflymkiii 05-06-2010 07:31 PM

The only way you'll put down over 300 hp to the wheels is if you do the lex afm 550cc mod. With the mods you're doing you'll be close to 280 hp at the wheels. This is basically what I'm doing right now.

907mge 05-06-2010 07:43 PM

Why buy used bolts when a new set is around a $110? The last thing you want to do is another head gasket after the one you just did.

supraflymkiii 05-06-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 907mge (Post 82512)
Why buy used bolts when a new set is around a $110? The last thing you want to do is another head gasket after the one you just did.

They're ARP Head Bolts. They're reusable and they only have about 1000 miles on them. And if you didn't see the guy is on a budget.

jdmsoup 05-06-2010 08:03 PM

i have to make sure i can trust you before i buy them. i would like to have new ones but if i can get good ones for 65 that are in excellent condition then why not save some money but im just not going to get scamed out of money not saying i dont trust you but when your short on money you have to be careful.

jdmsoup 05-12-2010 12:59 AM

i took everybodies advice. i got a complete top end gasket set from fel-pro and i got some extra money so i ordered a new set of arp head studs so it shoudl all be ok and my arp stuff should be here this week so i can have my car back. im so excited. thanks to everybody for helping my through this. this forum is great :bigthumb:

907mge 05-12-2010 01:09 AM

There will still be a few more things you will need at least with out including the turbo:

O-rings for injectors
Crush washers for fuel system
Crush washers for heater union(if leaking)

jdmsoup 05-12-2010 01:50 AM

ill be sure to get those things im going to check what the set came with very close and get what ever i need that it didnt come with. but i also got some of that copper spray you suggested to me. and i did some research on it adn ive heard it works wonders haha. but im jsut so excited to have my supra back. i miss it. haha im sure you all understand.

jdmsoup 05-18-2010 02:41 AM

ok so i got the hed off and got everything taken off and now its time to start cleaning everything. i have some questions on lapping the block. does anybody have any advice or and threads on this? becuase im owrried about getting stuff in the coolant chambers and stuff.so if anybody had any advice it would be super appreciated. thanks in advance.


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