The 1JZ/7M Front facing intake manifold??
 

What cars do these intakes come off of?? Is it a direct bolt on/fit without having to modify anything major?

Thinking on getting one for my 7mgte, any help is appreciated.

Ffim
 

i know come companies make a FFIM for the 7mgte at decent prices but remember you have to run different IC piping and new throttle body. for the cost of a used one off a 1jz or 2jz you can buy a brand new one with a 90mm throttle body.

Ok if I were, by any chance, able to get my hands on a 1JZ or 2JZ FFIM does it bolt right on? With throttle body?

my friend got his hands on a 2jz ffim and he said there were no issues. he bought a different (bigger than stock) throttle body for it. the only thing left was the IC piping, which he took measurements and bought some universal aluminum piping and made his own. so yes far as im aware everything will swap over. im sure if i was misled by my friend, and anyone here has information otherwise they will tell you...

Ok cool I really appreciate it.

So is there any power gain with one of those?

heck ya. just the drop in air temp going into the motor alone can account for a noticeable difference, the drop in air temp is due to the fact the the pipe no longer goes over the top of the turbo and engine before entering the engine. and you will most likely get a bigger throttle body on that intake manifold, newer IC piping (if running stock IC piping and then switching to the aluminum, that alone is worth 10 - 20 hp without adj the boost) also a new intercooler because the stock one has the inlet and outlet on the same side whereas its preferred to have and normal intercooler with the inlet and outlet on opposite sides, that is more efficient as well ( the intercooler can give you another 10 - 20 hp) the stock IC piping and intercooler are so inefficient that they lose 3 psi at full boost. the stock 7mgte ran 6.8 lbs of boost and only got 3.8 lbs of boost to the motor. so to make a long story short if somehow you could only just change to the FFIM and leave everything else stock, yes you will get more hp, but due to the fact that you need a new throttle body (go big), new IC piping, and intercooler, you will notice GOOOD gains without touching the boost

Good info bro, What throttle body is suggested for that intake manifold?

far as i know the 90mm is as big as you can go. but there is a variety of different sizes, off the top of my head i know suprasport has them and i know a couple of the other big companies, i think jsc speed might. get in contact with them and go from there.
what do you have done and what are your intentions?

I have a 7mgte. It has Probe forged pistons bored .20, Eagle rods and ARP supporting hardware. The head has been redone and shaved a little. I am looking for a bigger turbo, as I do have the stock CT-26.

Intensions, I'm trying to get at "least" 500whp out of it.

did you do arp wrist pins? and did you do a bottom end rebuild?
suprasport has a FFIM and throttle bodies, i just checked it out, if you do the FFIM the big throttle body with the alum. IC piping and a decent Front mount intercooler and crank the boost to 15 psi with what you already have done to the car, you'll be pretty close to that 500 mark at the motor. i might say though, if youre looking to go to an aftermarket turbo and dont want to have to change your exhaust manifold and turbo elbow and oil lines etc etc suprasport has a boss turbo which is like the ct-26 but is hella bigger and more efficient etc etc (check it out) but if you want to go to a t3/t4 flanged turbo might i suggest go with bullseye (made by borg warner) s300 series. theres a place in west palm beach FL have a list on their site of their turbos and when you call them and tell them what youre looking for in a turbo, and hp they'll hook you up and their prices are good. also bullseye turbos which are made with almost 100% borg warner parts are proving to make more power on the dyno's than other turbo's at the same boost level. i didnt belive it but my friend has a integra, FULLY built motor, ems, this kid has dumped over $13k under the hood and he had a garrett on their and to prove a point my friend who has a fully built civic with a bullseye on it took his turbo off and put it on the integra and when justin ran his integra on the dyno he picked up 70 more hp on an older bullseye than his brand new garrett at the same boost.
500 hp is a nice fast but reliable ride man, your car will be sick

Thats what I was looking for man a fast but reliable ride. I currently have an 86 7mge and everyone wants a peice of it but its my daily!

Someone did tell me With what I have done to the motor I could just use my stock turbo system and turn the boost up. I do have a t3/t4 manifold already, but I might just put stock turbo system on-turn up the boost-see how I do-then upgrade later on.

I am still going to try and get my hands on one of them 1JZ intakes and a throttle body and I will go from there.

Hmmmm, I don't think the 1JZ/2JZ FFIM will drop into the 7M without any modifications. I know there is a couple of people that makes the 7M FFIM, one is Seth, Ron, and Lipp(I don't think they finished the prototype though).

I suggest doing a research first before you decide to jump in. It's not something cheap.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...r-custom-parts

Someone with a brain. Thank you! There's so much bad advice in this thread. I'm outta here.

There's no way in hell with adding that and the mods you already have that you'll be close to 500 whp. The stock CT is only good for about 350 whp. And they do make upgraded CT's they have a 57 trim which is good for around 400 whp and they have a 61 trim which would probably be good for what you're shooting for. But in order to accomplish those numbers you'll probably going to want to get a MAFT pro setup or something along those lines. I don't even think a 7M with a LEX AFM can flow enough air to make 500 whp. To make that much horsepower you're looking at quite a bit of money, and a 500 whp 7M is not going to be very reliable unless you get it tuned very good and a professional tune is going to be quite pricey as well. So do your research and you'll find that you're looking at a lot more work than you think to make those kind of numbers.

Your wrong about your pressure drop theory. Its correct that the stock i.c. does have about a 3 psi drop but it doesn't mean your getting 3.8psi at the engine, you're getting exactly what the gauge reads, gauges read off of the intake manifold pressure which is after the intercooler. If anything the turbo is building about 10 psi and losing 3 psi through the intercooler which nets you about 7 psi in the intake manifold.

Hey guys thanks for all the opinions, dont think I'm not doing my research on it as well. I am new to this and I'm doing some research of my own =) Just wanted to see what you guys thought about it so I could get an idea of what I'm looking at.

Is it possible to get one made, homemade (FFIM)?? I have a cousin thats pretty good at welding. Again just asking opinions.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...rs-(July-14-08)

This is all you need to know, don't waste your time with anything else. It is more than a bolt on affair as you'll need a new throttle body, intercooler set up etc.

Ok thanks a lot

Comments and opinions really appreciated.

X2 wow...
were are you in NC? and no the 1jz/2jz intake manifolds wont work

I know right!!

I'm located in the Raleigh area...

im up that way alot, what color is your supra

Ok cool, My supra is white.

It has a damaged front end on it (no bumper), a dark green left side fender (working on the body now), and lexus wheels on it.

Do you go to the meets on US1 by Sheetz?

yep, their are no more matison meets tho. Im right around the corner from sheetz on the weekends

ok cool man,

I have a friend that goes there sometimes. What color is yours?