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batmmannn 06-18-2010 10:12 PM

Pros and Cons
 
Pros for 5 Speed

More fun to drive
More responsive
More Dependable
Better gas mileage
Faster off the Line
Less cost to repair
Less cost to maintain
Easier to tow
Can be jump started with low battery

Pros for Automatic


Having a hand free when a hot woman is in the passenger seat!

Tough Choice!!
lol

ochowdero 06-18-2010 10:15 PM

definately hard choice

well i checked craigslist in my area and no 5 speeds for cheap

you know roughly how much it would cost to just switch out my tranny to 5 speed?

batmmannn 06-18-2010 10:25 PM

Swap out
 
You would need a parts car to even make it economical. Not sure if the auto has the ability to accept a manual clutch pedal assembly but you could check into it.

I would not even attempt it. I would get a 5 speed if that is what I wanted. I would get the 5 speed and then swap what I could before unloading the auto either as parts or as a project car. I have seen guys get turbos for as little as $500 to $1000 that have reported blown head gaskets or turbos. A 5 speed might be harder to find. N/A Autos seem to sell this way when down and out.

I decided I wanted a 5 speed after I had driven my auto for several years. Bought my 5 speed for $1000 7 years ago. It sat for 28 seasons because of a bad starter. Every time I tried to swap it out I got disgusted and put it aside again. It was this forum that taught me how to finally reach it and swap it out in my driveway. I was too stubborn to pay towing and a garage to fix it.

When I was finally determined not to look at it sitting in leaves anymore I obsessed myself with it. You have to be determined and not quit on it. These cars are complicated to say the least, but engineered extremely well. Look at mine, dead in the driveway for 7 years through, winter, summer, 3 foot snows, and it's all good now and I did it all myself in my driveway. Only the tires went to the garage for mount and balance, car went once for state inspection, and once for a Blown Head Gasket Test that it passed.

ochowdero 06-18-2010 10:28 PM

whats N/A?
and yeah
ill just stick to performance upgrades on my auto
unless a 5 speed comes my way in the future

what do you suggest to do to a auto?
performance wise?

batmmannn 06-18-2010 10:45 PM

N/a
 
N/A means Non Turbo. Your basic Supra without the Turbo single or Twin

ochowdero 06-18-2010 10:53 PM

N/a
 
oh ok,
then mines an N/A

well still dont know if i should start building up my supra now or wait to get a 5 speed, if i can even find one or afford it at the time

batmmannn 06-18-2010 11:24 PM

Most
 
Most of what you buy for your Auto you can later swap out to your 5 Speed. Fix what you have and then sell it add a grand and pick up a turbo 5 speed.

Depends on how fast you want to get driving.

ochowdero 06-18-2010 11:44 PM

thats prolly what ima do,
later on though..
ima keep my automatic, and maybe eventually
swap my tranny

welll thanks
when i do mods to it ill post pics..
lates :DD

wstanek 06-18-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batmmannn (Post 84711)
Yes there are very little to no differences between the motors. Get a 5 speed Turbo that needs work and then you have it. You want a car that looks rough but has great potential. Often the blown head gasket syndrome scares owners into selling often there is no blown head gasket. There are many causes of overheating. People shouted get rid of it too me and I kept going till I have it all fixed, no blown head gasket even though I had white smoke, overheating, boiling out of my overflow, Many shouted BHG! It was a stripped timing belt and then a stuck new thermostat or air pockets in the heater core.

I used my Black auto 87 Supra to swap parts off of to fix my Red 5 Speed. Now my 5 speed is good to go and my auto needs parts, but between the too I now have one good running 5 speed instead of 2 broken down Toyotas.

In the long run it is far cheaper to get a 2nd car. Parts are getting very hard to find and expensive for these cars. Ebay is a good source for now, but that will dry up over the next few years as well.

you now whats wired i live in canada but thats not the weird part the weird part is that i have acces to all parts at part source there not cheap but they have em all!

batmmannn 06-19-2010 12:05 AM

Remember
 
If you don't have verification that your trans has been serviced within the last 40000 miles. DO NOT change the transmission fluid. If you do it could cause slippage by removing varnish off the bands. Just add trans fluid as you need it. You think you have access to all parts till you run into one you can't get. Or have to pay $100 for, like the N/A fan relay assembly!


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