Hopping right brakes

batmmannn · 07-07-2010, 06:23 PM

My passenger side brakes started hopping today, It feels like a warped rotor, but as I recall when I checked the brakes they were missing the wishbone wire clips that are supposed to be on there. They rattle over bumps so I figure I need to get a brake kit with those spring clips. Ordered one from Auto Zone for $16.00 it has the springs and the other parts for keeping the brake pads tight in there. The Dealer wants $36 just for the wishbone spring clips! Never can tell how the prices will run.

I am wondering if not having those clips in there could cause a bad rotor but more likely is allowing the pads to bind a bit on braking.

The clips weren't on there at all when I bought the car and the rotors felt fine till today other than chinging a bit over bumps. Just wondering what your thoughts are of the effects of not having those wishbone wire clips on there might be over the long run?

cre · 07-07-2010, 08:18 PM

you're giving those clips too much credit, they don't duo much other than prevent squeeks. check your e brake hardware for proper adjustment and damage and loose parts.

batmmannn · 07-07-2010, 09:46 PM

Its the front passenger side brakes that are hopping. Feels like a warped front rotor on braking. I guess I wasn't clear on that. e brake locks the rear wheel correct?

cre · 07-08-2010, 02:29 AM

Stop with the warped brake thing and read: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml

Great, now that that's out of the way, you can try getting the rotors resurfaced; If you do be sure to properly bed it in when you reinstall it.

Also pull out the TSRM and inspect for play in the ball joints and tie rod. Check for excessive play in the bushings as well and check for play in the bearing.

Green7mgte · 07-08-2010, 04:09 PM

lol the first time i pulled my brakes off I said.. wtf are these.. and threw them away lol..
at $20 a rotor just buy new ones.

batmmannn · 07-08-2010, 10:26 PM

Thats a lot to read there Cre, I read half of it. My rotors were heavy in Rust when I started bringing the car back. Anyway. It's $29 from Autozone for the rotor. I already have the new pads, and the hardware kit should be in today. I must be getting real picky cause I remember other cars I have that would do this and I would be like whatever!

cre · 07-09-2010, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green7mgte

lol the first time i pulled my brakes off I said.. wtf are these.. and threw them away lol..

Dumbass....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green7mgte

at $20 a rotor just buy new ones.

and.... Dumbass....

If you want to cheap out do it on the cosmetics.... hell do it on the engine... but NEVER on the brakes!!!

Green7mgte · 07-09-2010, 02:54 PM

eh the clippy guards on my brakes arent an issue. and at around 20 to 30 dollars per rotor I wouldn't resurface it just buy a new one.

I wouldn't call that skimping exactly.
less rumble or vibration with the clips in yes. but not a safety issue.

you hurt my feelings

cre · 07-10-2010, 05:17 AM

Sorry man, but pads are cheap, what you're advising is going to cost more each time as you still have to replace the pads. $20 rotors are crap made from crap materials. For a gentle driver it's no big deal but for anyone who drives aggressively the inconsistencies in thermal distribution, poor machining and less than phenomenal heat dissipation all add up to a great potential for frequent problems or worse a serious failure when pressing them too hard. Pay the $100 ea and at least get Brembo OEM spec rotors... oh, and replace your pads before you trash them... they'll last you a VERY long time.

batmmannn · 07-10-2010, 03:00 PM

Yesterday the car was fine, go figure no hopping, probably the lack of clips or they get hot not sure but that is great advice on the brakes, I looked at some on line with more pistons in the calipers. They make a Big Brake Kit for our cars. Will those stop me if I drive off a cliff? Just kidding...lol

07-07-2010, 06:23 PM	#1
batmmannn 12psi boost Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 320	Hopping right brakes My passenger side brakes started hopping today, It feels like a warped rotor, but as I recall when I checked the brakes they were missing the wishbone wire clips that are supposed to be on there. They rattle over bumps so I figure I need to get a brake kit with those spring clips. Ordered one from Auto Zone for $16.00 it has the springs and the other parts for keeping the brake pads tight in there. The Dealer wants $36 just for the wishbone spring clips! Never can tell how the prices will run. I am wondering if not having those clips in there could cause a bad rotor but more likely is allowing the pads to bind a bit on braking. The clips weren't on there at all when I bought the car and the rotors felt fine till today other than chinging a bit over bumps. Just wondering what your thoughts are of the effects of not having those wishbone wire clips on there might be over the long run? __________________ 1987 N/A 7MGE Left Hand Drive MK3 Red 5 Speed and Black Auto Supras My Next project is the Batmobile!

07-07-2010, 08:18 PM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	you're giving those clips too much credit, they don't duo much other than prevent squeeks. check your e brake hardware for proper adjustment and damage and loose parts. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

07-07-2010, 09:46 PM	#3
batmmannn 12psi boost Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 320	My Bad Its the front passenger side brakes that are hopping. Feels like a warped front rotor on braking. I guess I wasn't clear on that. e brake locks the rear wheel correct? __________________ 1987 N/A 7MGE Left Hand Drive MK3 Red 5 Speed and Black Auto Supras My Next project is the Batmobile!

07-08-2010, 02:29 AM	#4
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Stop with the warped brake thing and read: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml Great, now that that's out of the way, you can try getting the rotors resurfaced; If you do be sure to properly bed it in when you reinstall it. Also pull out the TSRM and inspect for play in the ball joints and tie rod. Check for excessive play in the bushings as well and check for play in the bearing. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

07-08-2010, 04:09 PM	#5
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	lol the first time i pulled my brakes off I said.. wtf are these.. and threw them away lol.. at $20 a rotor just buy new ones. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

07-08-2010, 10:26 PM	#6
batmmannn 12psi boost Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 320	Wow Thats a lot to read there Cre, I read half of it. My rotors were heavy in Rust when I started bringing the car back. Anyway. It's $29 from Autozone for the rotor. I already have the new pads, and the hardware kit should be in today. I must be getting real picky cause I remember other cars I have that would do this and I would be like whatever! __________________ 1987 N/A 7MGE Left Hand Drive MK3 Red 5 Speed and Black Auto Supras My Next project is the Batmobile!

07-09-2010, 02:54 PM	#8
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	eh the clippy guards on my brakes arent an issue. and at around 20 to 30 dollars per rotor I wouldn't resurface it just buy a new one. I wouldn't call that skimping exactly. less rumble or vibration with the clips in yes. but not a safety issue. you hurt my feelings __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

07-10-2010, 05:17 AM	#9
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Sorry man, but pads are cheap, what you're advising is going to cost more each time as you still have to replace the pads. $20 rotors are crap made from crap materials. For a gentle driver it's no big deal but for anyone who drives aggressively the inconsistencies in thermal distribution, poor machining and less than phenomenal heat dissipation all add up to a great potential for frequent problems or worse a serious failure when pressing them too hard. Pay the $100 ea and at least get Brembo OEM spec rotors... oh, and replace your pads before you trash them... they'll last you a VERY long time. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

07-10-2010, 03:00 PM	#10
batmmannn 12psi boost Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 320	Funny Brakes Yesterday the car was fine, go figure no hopping, probably the lack of clips or they get hot not sure but that is great advice on the brakes, I looked at some on line with more pistons in the calipers. They make a Big Brake Kit for our cars. Will those stop me if I drive off a cliff? Just kidding...lol __________________ 1987 N/A 7MGE Left Hand Drive MK3 Red 5 Speed and Black Auto Supras My Next project is the Batmobile!

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