Horsepower numbers?
 

Hey guys,
Im close to getting my first supra and was curious. What kind of horsepower are you guys getting and how much did you spend to get it?

You see people making all kinds of various numbers with the 7M.... I'd say that the majority of owners fall between 250 and 400 at the wheels. I know, that's a rather broad spread but it's accurate. There are plenty of people who push their luck and go for 400+ without rebuilding that 20+ year old motor and end up making 0 RWHP. :rofl2:

If this is your first Supra, but not your first hobby car and hopefully not your only car then fine.... But, if it's your first car and you expect to learn from working on it you should count on a lot of painful lessons and perhaps consider a better supported platform to begin with.

if your searching for power be sure to get a turbo supra.

First project car. yes. First time working on cars. No. Im 20 and a mechanic and have always wanted a car to work on, and have always liked the mkiiis. How much money have you guys spent to get 300 - 400 horse?

What type of mechanic are you then? It is so easy to make really bad mistakes with these cars. Second raw horsepower is not enough. It has to be deliver through the power train to the wheels and there is more that needs to be done.

when my car is running i will be hoping to hit the 300hp mark.
but i have a 1uz Lexus v8 and i have burned too much money on the project.
probly over 2k now...

all in all. i can say i would be really happy if i had a turbo mk3 with lets say.... mandrel bent intake piping a sweet IC, and a oil and power steering cooler.i personally would not step to far away from stock without a complete rebuild.

I graduated with an associates in automotive and have my ase's done except for auto trans. I work in an independent shop.

I guess my real question is how much will i be spending to have a fun weekend car with more than enough get up and go. (including trans, driveline, suspension, ect upgrades)

this is not something you can put a price on. its always going to be an ongoing money pit. if i had it, i could spend 10k in one day on supra

Money Pit is a good way to put it. When it comes to hp numbers and get up and go, it is more of a matter of opinion. How fast do you want to go? I personally think somewhere between 300 and 400 hp is more than enough for the street. After all a mk4 turbo does 0 to 60 in about 5 sec. with 280 stock horses. But when it comes to the subject of money, an mk3 does not hold value anywhere near as well as a mk4. All the turbo mk3 s tend to be rather beat and require alot of money to make them reliable and fun again. After all you are talking about a 20 plus year old car. I don't think parts prices are to bad but are much more than parts for a honda civic or chevy 350. And in the end you end up with a car that has hours of work and far more money than its book value.

Having a lot of horsepower does not equal enjoyment. At 200 my guy can get me in a world of trouble. As for the money, how much is your pleasure worth? Really unless you race on a track, stock is very nice. Oh 907mge, what does "book value" have to do with anything?

it means you could put 20k into your mk3 and only get 7k if you sold it:rofl2:

It means you need to take the proper steps to have it insured and documented. You can put hours and hours of work as well as thousands of dollars and then have some idiot take you out on the road. And if things weren't done right they are certainly not going to give you enough to rebuild your 25 year old car back to the way it was.

well my daily driver is a 2005 g6 that puts out 200 stock. That was good for the past few years but ive been wanting alot more lately. Im really looking to get 300 to 350 hp. I know horsepower isnt everything. but as far as numbers go thats what im going for

Well you answered your own question. You need to sell your Supra and go out and buy new American mule. There are a couple of American gomi mussel cars to choose from. The when some drunk hits you there ia a higher payment to you. FYI all of these are considered "imports" due to their low US content. Second, well no work! You can get that "great gm feeling".

Could of made it shorter and said that restoring my 25 year old is an act of Love. It has nothing to do with resale value or accidents. If a kid wrecks him I will sue the parents :))

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:g6 :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
if you enjoy the power, it will be something you have to do.

Hey I just tell it the way it is. I think the "supra" name draws the inexperienced into buying a car they think they can just buy and go fast with ease. I've had many people buying supra parts from me who I could tell had a a lot to learn. But if you call it love so be it. What you do with your supra behind closed garage doors is your business. :bouncy:

The mk4 supra turbo has 320hp not 280hp the 1jz has 280hp

i thought only the rz-TT had 320bhp?
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi...turbo_16679667
pretty nice car...if i had the money...:outahere:

I was basing that number off my friends Jdm 2jz out of an Aristo. But I also forgot about the rule that Japan has only recently dropped of advertised hp being limited to 276. So maybe the US version is more.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/jap...-pact-car-news

http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/specs.htm


Yes the JDM 2jz said to have 280 but like In my link but I'm sure Toyota lied about it to pass there rules. Like ford did for the fox body mustangs

Why does someone in Japan need a car with 280 horsepower? The max speed limit is 100 km or about 60. Most expressways are 80 km or 50 and most other roads are 60km or 36. Sure there is some countryside but I would be afraid of running down some grandpa or granny and they step right out in front of you! Worse running over a kid, all three have right of way and it is called professional negligence resulting in injury or death.

Are the speed limits in New Zealand higher? I know there is more open space than in Japan. Perhaps Nagoya made a mistake and put the local Japanese car specs on the exports?

Why do they have such small sopped up cars and vans? The reason the less the curb weight and engine size the less taxes, insurance. Better yet if small enough to get the yellow plate, you get discounts on highway and bridge tolls.

for starters drifting is a really big in japan. and i would imagine they have raceways and drag strips as well....

So true, I was referring to the regular roads. I have a gold stripe on my license in Japan.

What can be done for my MA70 in America?

Yeah! Another thread COMPLETELY DERAILED! :rolleyes2

How long were you living there? Or did you just manage to spend enough time traveling there to qualify? When I was younger, even if just visiting on a regular basis there's no way I could have ever managed a gold endorsement... Hell, I probably wouldn't have graduated beyond green. But, I'm older and wiser now (Don't get me wrong, I'm not THAT old).

Laughs you would of done well. Oh I have lived there for a number of years but my job is here in America. I lived in Okinawa and Kanagawa. Discovered to my joy my Japanese license can be used in Australia and the UK.

I was just trying to put things in context and show that the Supra was an odd duck for Japan. My Supra in Japan had a GA70 engine and a automatic. It was a slug compared to my current Supra.

So what can I do to get an little extra power. Though I spun the tires in the first 3 gears over the weekend. :cool: Not long after that a policeman showed up, wonders if there is a connection :p

cams. ITB's and injectors. EMS
if you want a better starting point, rebuild, bore, high compression pistons.

or you could always search for a turbo engine... close to direct drop in.