Fmic questions?!?!

Awyman18 · 02-26-2012, 04:56 AM

ok so i want to upgrade my fmic (front mount intercooler) and im curious wat u guys ran? Have u ever used a universal kit? Wat size etc etc? and how hard was running the piping and did it actually fit??

and cre i searched all the way through page 19 too...lol

cre · 02-27-2012, 05:11 AM

Well, from doing a quick search (lol, keep trying.

) I found that one recommended size posted here is about 22" x 12" x 3". I've seen even larger shoe-horned in there and smaller. I think mine was a bit shorter. Really though there's no easy answer for this... You're the one who's going to have to figure out how you want to hang it, how to run the piping, how you want to relocate/mount the oil and power steering coolers. You are probably getting a rough idea why many people opt for a
"Spearco" replica IC at this point...

Universal piping kits aren't bad as they're cheap, but usually the couplers are crap and they often only come with conventional worm-gear type hose clamps. I've found that anything about 2.5" is a bit of a pain in the ass to install due to the kit only having so many angles available. Ordering a couple 'hump' couplers and a couple long couplers will help you get those subtle angles.

Awyman18 · 02-27-2012, 03:58 PM

yea i heard ebay fmic's are ok...but they dont get rid of the heat like they are supposed to and like u said the couplers blow off. And i would really like to not relocate stuff because i want to just drop it in and be done lol but nothing is ever that easy. So i mean....spend like $200 on ebay fmic..or im considering buying this guy http://store.driftmotion.com/static/...rcoolerkit.php Pipes are already bent and ive heard alot of good things about it

MJG · 02-27-2012, 10:07 PM

FYI.
I have that IC in my car. The kit is not a "plug-n-play" kit and numerous modifications will be required to install it.
Oil cooler and horns will require re location.
The stock coolant over flow tank will not fit in the origional position. I replaced it with an aluminum tank, custom made for my application.
The top IC bracket (supplied in the kit) required modification to fit in the car.
The pipe from the left side of the IC (charge air out) that runs under the IC to the fender well pipe (right side) will interfere with the plastic engine under cover. I modified my undercover to work with the pipe.
All of the IC pipes fit well without modification. Stainless "T" bolt clamps are supplied and the couplers are decent.
NO instructions are provided. It is assumed the installer has the required tooling and skill to install this kit.
All in all, it is a nice kit and worth the effort.

Awyman18 · 02-28-2012, 02:08 AM

yea i dont want to relocate a whole bunch of stuff....lol uggh. How hard do u think it would be to bend ur own piping?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/31-x-11-75-x-2-75-FMIC-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-SAME-SIDE-3-INLET-OUTLET-/120851506080?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Year%3A1990|Model%3ASupra&vxp=mtr&hash=item1 c234fa3a0 What about this guy?

ACTUALLY...probably gonna buy this http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-75x11x2-5...item19c56b9e86 Spearco replica as u said Cre?

MJG · 02-28-2012, 08:11 PM

Bending your own pipe is possible providing you own, or have access to a mandrel bender for 2.5" pipe.
If not, perhaps a local machine shop is tooled to do it to your specifications.
I suspect that the two intercoolers you linked will not just slide in to your car.

Ranma · 02-28-2012, 09:23 PM

Bending pipe even with a mandrel is not easy. Unless you know what you are doing it is best left to others.

Awyman18 · 02-29-2012, 02:41 AM

well.....do any of u kno of a cheaper not a $300 ridiculous 7mgte pipe kit thats pre bent? lol

Ranma · 02-29-2012, 02:53 AM

Unless you know what you are doing it is easy to ruin the pipe. The harder the material the easier it is to crack or crinkle the pipe. I bent my share of hydraulic, fuel and oil lines for USAF aircraft. We had the best mandels possible and every so often you would screw up one.

My questions is what is your experience? It would be easy for you to crack it and then have it fail while in use. 300 dollars may seem like a lot to you but it will be done right, also you get what you pay for and I bought a freezer from Sears cheap. Well it did not last 3 months and lost over 300 dollars in chicken and steak.

So your "cheap" part can end up costing you dearly!

Awyman18 · 02-29-2012, 03:01 AM

zip, none lol my friend though knows how to tig weld and such so we would probably just cut and weld.

02-26-2012, 04:56 AM	#1
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	Fmic questions?!?! ok so i want to upgrade my fmic (front mount intercooler) and im curious wat u guys ran? Have u ever used a universal kit? Wat size etc etc? and how hard was running the piping and did it actually fit?? and cre i searched all the way through page 19 too...lol Last edited by Awyman18; 02-26-2012 at 06:15 AM.

02-27-2012, 05:11 AM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Well, from doing a quick search (lol, keep trying. ) I found that one recommended size posted here is about 22" x 12" x 3". I've seen even larger shoe-horned in there and smaller. I think mine was a bit shorter. Really though there's no easy answer for this... You're the one who's going to have to figure out how you want to hang it, how to run the piping, how you want to relocate/mount the oil and power steering coolers. You are probably getting a rough idea why many people opt for a "Spearco" replica IC at this point... Universal piping kits aren't bad as they're cheap, but usually the couplers are crap and they often only come with conventional worm-gear type hose clamps. I've found that anything about 2.5" is a bit of a pain in the ass to install due to the kit only having so many angles available. Ordering a couple 'hump' couplers and a couple long couplers will help you get those subtle angles. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

02-28-2012, 02:08 AM	#5
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	yea i dont want to relocate a whole bunch of stuff....lol uggh. How hard do u think it would be to bend ur own piping? http://www.ebay.com/itm/31-x-11-75-x-2-75-FMIC-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-SAME-SIDE-3-INLET-OUTLET-/120851506080?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Year%3A1990\|Model%3ASupra&vxp=mtr&hash=item1 c234fa3a0 What about this guy? ACTUALLY...probably gonna buy this http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-75x11x2-5...item19c56b9e86 Spearco replica as u said Cre? Last edited by Awyman18; 02-28-2012 at 04:30 AM.

02-28-2012, 09:23 PM	#7
Ranma 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Claremore, OK Posts: 326 Blog Entries: 10	Bending pipe even with a mandrel is not easy. Unless you know what you are doing it is best left to others. __________________ 1986 Mk III MA70 7MGE Targa Top 5 Speed Stock Exhaust

02-29-2012, 02:53 AM	#9
Ranma 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Claremore, OK Posts: 326 Blog Entries: 10	Unless you know what you are doing it is easy to ruin the pipe. The harder the material the easier it is to crack or crinkle the pipe. I bent my share of hydraulic, fuel and oil lines for USAF aircraft. We had the best mandels possible and every so often you would screw up one. My questions is what is your experience? It would be easy for you to crack it and then have it fail while in use. 300 dollars may seem like a lot to you but it will be done right, also you get what you pay for and I bought a freezer from Sears cheap. Well it did not last 3 months and lost over 300 dollars in chicken and steak. So your "cheap" part can end up costing you dearly! __________________ 1986 Mk III MA70 7MGE Targa Top 5 Speed Stock Exhaust

02-27-2012, 03:58 PM	#3
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	yea i heard ebay fmic's are ok...but they dont get rid of the heat like they are supposed to and like u said the couplers blow off. And i would really like to not relocate stuff because i want to just drop it in and be done lol but nothing is ever that easy. So i mean....spend like $200 on ebay fmic..or im considering buying this guy http://store.driftmotion.com/static/...rcoolerkit.php Pipes are already bent and ive heard alot of good things about it

02-27-2012, 10:07 PM	#4
MJG 3" Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Washington State Posts: 125	FYI. I have that IC in my car. The kit is not a "plug-n-play" kit and numerous modifications will be required to install it. Oil cooler and horns will require re location. The stock coolant over flow tank will not fit in the origional position. I replaced it with an aluminum tank, custom made for my application. The top IC bracket (supplied in the kit) required modification to fit in the car. The pipe from the left side of the IC (charge air out) that runs under the IC to the fender well pipe (right side) will interfere with the plastic engine under cover. I modified my undercover to work with the pipe. All of the IC pipes fit well without modification. Stainless "T" bolt clamps are supplied and the couplers are decent. NO instructions are provided. It is assumed the installer has the required tooling and skill to install this kit. All in all, it is a nice kit and worth the effort.

02-28-2012, 08:11 PM	#6
MJG 3" Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Washington State Posts: 125	Bending your own pipe is possible providing you own, or have access to a mandrel bender for 2.5" pipe. If not, perhaps a local machine shop is tooled to do it to your specifications. I suspect that the two intercoolers you linked will not just slide in to your car.

02-29-2012, 02:41 AM	#8
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	well.....do any of u kno of a cheaper not a $300 ridiculous 7mgte pipe kit thats pre bent? lol

02-29-2012, 03:01 AM	#10
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	zip, none lol my friend though knows how to tig weld and such so we would probably just cut and weld.

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