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2fast4u 03-16-2012 11:27 PM

Mk3 supra leaking oil
 
Hello iam new here guys but I just did a head gasket change and I start the car an it leaks/drips oil from passenger side of motor I thought It was from the dipstick but it wasn't it. Just wondering what has oil that will make it leak from the passenger side of the motor

2fast4u 03-17-2012 12:33 AM

mk3
 
its leaking from the oil pan gasket and the screws were lose but any ways if i wanted to change the oil pan gasket how would i becuase theres the subframe and this calls for removing of suspension and the subframe is there a way to not remove the subframe please help im only 16

Sonyps307 03-17-2012 02:41 AM

Drop subframe or lifted motor 4-8". U should replace the oil pump while it's off.

2fast4u 03-17-2012 02:56 AM

The oil onley leaks when the car is running and I checked the oil pan the bolts were loose so I tightens them but it still leaks only when cars running it onley drips small little drips and drips when the car shuts off right after I turn the car off but drips for like 5 minutes than stops can this still be oil pan gasket

Sonyps307 03-17-2012 03:11 AM

Is it turbo or non turbo

cre 03-17-2012 06:19 AM

He/she's got a 7M-GTE.

2slow, do yourself a favor and put all of your specs in your sig. It'll make it easier for others to help you if they don't have to ask for the basic info.

And I really hope you didn't use a gasket on the pan. Toyota specifies that only FIPG is to be used and for good reason. I have no idea why gasket makers insist on including a pan gasket, they're not spec and they ALWAYS leak.

2fast4u 03-17-2012 01:57 PM

Mk3
 
It's leaking I beloved from the oil pan gasket but only when the car is running if it's from the oil pan gasket shouldn't it leak oil without the car running my car is a 7mgte turbo manual transmission please help me out and what is figp thanks to everyone for helping me I hope iam not annoying

cre 03-17-2012 07:51 PM

Grammar man, grammar. It doesn't do you much good to act ignorant and thus make it more difficult for us to understand and help you. I assume you're still in school, take advantage of it and learn how to present a significantly stronger image than most of your generation seem capable of.... Don't worry though, you're far from the worst we've had here.

The oil pan shouldn't leaking just from the engine running. Even at high idle the oil level doesn't really exceed the height of the pan unless it's over filled. You really shouldn't see a drip unless the car has been moving. The loose screws would definitely contribute, but do NOT over torque them! That is a terrible place to have to extract a broken bolt from while the engine is in the vehicle. Torque should be 9ft/lbs. Torque from the inside outward in a star patter like you do with the head bolts. FIPG needs to be applied to the flange surface on the edge inside of the bolt holes.

FIPG = Form In Place Gasket. Typically it is a tin cure RTV silicone sealant. RTV = Room Temperature Vulcanizing; As opposed to elastic materials requiring heating during mixing and application or tin cure (two part) sealants. I suggest you use Toyota, Honda or Permatex "Right Stuff"where a strong seal is required.

Annoying? Heh, maybe a little but we've all been there. :bigthumb: A LONG time ago for some of us.

I'm writing this on a tablet and touch screens suck. I'll post anything else I think of later when I'm at a computer.

EDIT: If you haven't had the oil pan off yourself and don't know how it was sealed I would use a feeler, a flashlight and a mirror to determine if a cork gasket was installed. If there was I would pull the pan, clean everything VERY thoroughly and seal it properly. If there is a cork gasket you want to take the easy (unreliable) route you may try torquing to about 12ft/lbs and use a medium strength thread locker (the blue stuff).

Also, check the turbo's oil lines and flanges for leaks.

2fast4u 03-17-2012 11:01 PM

Mk3
 
Thanks for the reply, I looked all over this morning and it looks like its leaking from above and dripping on the oil pan. What other parts to the engine have oil on the passenger side of the motor. Iam extremely confused because I touch turbo oil pipes and it's no wet with oil. Could the turbocharger stay do something with this leak because I didn't have it on? Iam talking about the turbocharger stay that bolts below the turbo so underneath the turbo than on the turbo. I took off the turbo almost but can't see leaks. Please help. If anybody lives close I'll pay them to help me out. Thanks

Ranma 03-18-2012 12:36 AM

Leaking from above could means lots of things. My question is did you change the Head gasket yourself and was it brought down to the head shop for a checkout? My guy had a leak that the dealer mechanic could not find, it came from a crack in the head.

Sonyps307 03-18-2012 12:41 AM

Might be leaking for pressure sensor, turbo drain where it goes into the block or oil line feeding turbo, and oil filter housing, oil cooler lines

2fast4u 03-18-2012 12:43 AM

mk3 leaking oil
 
yes i changed the head gasket myself but i had the head pressure tested and cleaned at the machine shop and machined. iam stuck i dont know where else it can leak from if its not the turbo oil pipe nor the pan where else can it be coming from the passenger side of the motor. when ever i start the motor theres oil dripping slowly and after i shut the car off. But when i go underneath the car to touch and feel for oil, theirs always oil on the sides of the pan where the figp is .

2fast4u 03-18-2012 12:48 AM

mk3 leaking oil
 
yes i changed the head gasket myself put arp head studs in it and also had the head resurfaced at the machine shop, pressure tested, and cleaned. when ever i start the engine the leak developes and after i shut it off. at both times the oils dont flow out it just is like a small drip. i can hear it going drip drip drip. then when i go to touch and feel for oil so that i can find the place where the oil is actually leaking from i feel oil from where the oil pan is. iam talking about the place where the oil pan seal and the oil pan mate to the block. i fell oil from their. this is why i suspected oil from above becuase i thought it was from the turbo oil pipes but it wasnt. iam stuck, what else can cause a leak from the passenger side of the motor and leak onto the oil pan gasket to make it seem like its leaking from the oil pan gasket?

2fast4u 03-18-2012 12:48 AM

mk3
 
yes i changed the head gasket myself put arp head studs in it and also had the head resurfaced at the machine shop, pressure tested, and cleaned. when ever i start the engine the leak developes and after i shut it off. at both times the oils dont flow out it just is like a small drip. i can hear it going drip drip drip. then when i go to touch and feel for oil so that i can find the place where the oil is actually leaking from i feel oil from where the oil pan is. iam talking about the place where the oil pan seal and the oil pan mate to the block. i fell oil from their. this is why i suspected oil from above becuase i thought it was from the turbo oil pipes but it wasnt. iam stuck, what else can cause a leak from the passenger side of the motor and leak onto the oil pan gasket to make it seem like its leaking from the oil pan gasket?

2fast4u 03-18-2012 02:52 PM

Mk3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonyps307 (Post 101622)
Might be leaking for pressure sensor, turbo drain where it goes into the block or oil line feeding turbo, and oil filter housing, oil cooler lines

What is a turbo drain if u can please send me a picture of it thanks

cre 03-18-2012 03:27 PM

Stop guessing. Clean the engine as thoroughly as possible and let it dry completely. Wipe down as much of the side where you think it may be leaking as possible. Now run the car for a few minutes. Now start dabbing at the engine to blot up any fresh oil which may have leaked out. Only go a couple inches at a time and keep checking the towel for wet oil. A leak can spray oil upward, but it's not common with oil and you'll know what parts you may check off your list of suspects. Make sure the engine has cooled enough not to burn yourself before you start reaching and shoving your arm against it. ;)

DIY HG, first car, MKIII, oil leak, no mention of block prep..... I'm worried. Did you check the block deck for straightness with a machinist's straightedge? There was no significant pitting in the deck or it was properly addressed? You chased the threads for the headbolts? The headbolts were removed in the correct order and then when the head was reinstalled they torqued in the correct order and in multiple passes? What kind of head gasket did you use? Did you put FIPG at the lower rear timing plate and cylinder block union? Did you put FIPG at the #1 cam caps before putting the valve covers back on? Did you properly torque the valvecovers? Was the oil pressure sender removed for any reason? Were new gaskets installed on the turbo?

The drain is the 1" corrugated pipe which comes straight down from the turbo and then turns and mates with the block. The missing stay/support isn't going to account for any significant short term damage except for the possibility of inaccurate torque at the exhaust manifold. I would get it back on though.

Another location where it could be leaking is from the CPS. After you clean the engine check that area periodically too.

2fast4u 03-18-2012 11:39 PM

mk3
 
yes i followed the tsrm manual. removed head bolts in order and put the fipg black sealant on cam covers also had the head machined, cleaned, and pressure tested. also i had the block prepped 4 hours to be perfect and checked with a percission straight edge. put new seals, new toyota head gasket, new turbo from turbonetics, oil lines valve cover gaskets and everything. i found out the leak it was from the dipstick from the oring seal becuase i got pissed and just took out the turbo and saw it was leaking from the o ring and leaking onto the oil pan making it look like it was leaking from the oil pan\. thanks guys i fixed my car and it purrs.


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