spacer between 7MGE & W-58?

carl johansson · 06-20-2012, 02:07 PM

So i took a 7MGE donated graciously by a Cressida, and freshened it up, now swapping it into my 87 supra NA manual trans. I'm putting it all back together, getting ready to drop the trans and engine back into the supra. But in swapping over the parts, I see a thin "spacer" sitting on the back of the motor, The holes line up and it rides between the engine and the flywheel. I don't think it came off the original motor, but I can't say for sure. it could have been there and swapped over by a helping hand. I suspect it is left over from the credssida - and may have something to do with an automatic trans? but I have no idea.

I looked at the TSM, and can't see it in the clutch section, so thats reasuring - or maybe not! maybe I am missing something.

The only think I can see it might do is shim out the flywheel a bit so the starter gears engage better? Or it could have not been in the supra with the 7MGE and w-58 to begin with.

I don't want to leave it out, get it al back together, then find out i needed the spacer. Anyone know if there is this spacer plate in manual trans supras between the tranny and motor?

cre · 06-20-2012, 04:11 PM

There is no spacer in the N/A MKIII. Looks like the last year Cressida may have used a different bell housing. I'd look into that. How thick is the shim?

carl johansson · 06-20-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

There is no spacer in the N/A MKIII. Looks like the last year Cressida may have used a different bell housing. I'd look into that. How thick is the shim?

Thanks cre, the spacer is about 4 inches across, with all of the bolt holes matching up, but it's only about 2.5 - 3 mm thick, maybe 3/16ths of an inch.

After i thought about it, I'm pretty sure i saw the piece before i pulled the flywheel off the original, so it would not have been on the supra

thanks for all your help!

btwilson86 · 06-20-2012, 06:49 PM

Yeah, I think that's only on N/A 7M's. IIRC, it goes on the crank before the flexplate

cre · 06-20-2012, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btwilson86

Yeah, I think that's only on N/A 7M's. IIRC, it goes on the crank before the flexplate

On N/A MKIII Supras? I don't recall anything like that nor do I see it in the EPC. Mind showing us where it is? http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...0/chassis.aspx

btwilson86 · 06-21-2012, 03:37 AM

I think he's talking about 32116 in the following link (on my phone, too much work to embed a pic lol)

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...spx?F=3502&P=1

btwilson86 · 06-21-2012, 04:45 AM

And I just reread this thread, the piece I linked to is only on AUTOMATICS, not manuals. So that part is not used on your Supra, Carl

carl johansson · 06-21-2012, 02:13 PM

Thanks Cre and Brian,
Cre had it right from the beginning,
Brian you are exactly right, i was refering to 32116. So as you guys have shown, it was a piece left over from the automatic in the cressida.

Thata a relief, now i won't have to worry about it!

thanks for your knowledge and esspecially the effort of both of you on this!

Carl

06-20-2012, 02:07 PM	#1
carl johansson 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Auberry, California Posts: 141	spacer between 7MGE & W-58? So i took a 7MGE donated graciously by a Cressida, and freshened it up, now swapping it into my 87 supra NA manual trans. I'm putting it all back together, getting ready to drop the trans and engine back into the supra. But in swapping over the parts, I see a thin "spacer" sitting on the back of the motor, The holes line up and it rides between the engine and the flywheel. I don't think it came off the original motor, but I can't say for sure. it could have been there and swapped over by a helping hand. I suspect it is left over from the credssida - and may have something to do with an automatic trans? but I have no idea. I looked at the TSM, and can't see it in the clutch section, so thats reasuring - or maybe not! maybe I am missing something. The only think I can see it might do is shim out the flywheel a bit so the starter gears engage better? Or it could have not been in the supra with the 7MGE and w-58 to begin with. I don't want to leave it out, get it al back together, then find out i needed the spacer. Anyone know if there is this spacer plate in manual trans supras between the tranny and motor?

06-20-2012, 04:11 PM	#2
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06-20-2012, 06:49 PM	#4
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Yeah, I think that's only on N/A 7M's. IIRC, it goes on the crank before the flexplate __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

06-21-2012, 03:37 AM	#6
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	I think he's talking about 32116 in the following link (on my phone, too much work to embed a pic lol) http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...spx?F=3502&P=1 __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

06-21-2012, 04:45 AM	#7
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	And I just reread this thread, the piece I linked to is only on AUTOMATICS, not manuals. So that part is not used on your Supra, Carl __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

06-21-2012, 02:13 PM	#8
carl johansson 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Auberry, California Posts: 141	Thanks Cre and Brian, Cre had it right from the beginning, Brian you are exactly right, i was refering to 32116. So as you guys have shown, it was a piece left over from the automatic in the cressida. Thata a relief, now i won't have to worry about it! thanks for your knowledge and esspecially the effort of both of you on this! Carl

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