i believe honda started to experiment with this in the late 70's early 80s but its now used on almost every honda/acura

i agree, its not really the car itself putting down the power, its just like he said temporary, cheap power. any one can put no2 on a car and say its fast

i agree with the nitrous thing lol. i would still use it tho, just not count it as part of my bragging rights. just to beat cocky people. ;) Me and my friends all had a little street race gathering last night...it was the most fun ive ever had driving a car. i won...needless to say haha jk, but i beat a 2 liter golf, 99 v6 accord, a v6 olds (car was actually a lot faster than i thought) and a 97 maxima. the closest race was me and the accord....neck and neck till top of third gear.

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I like the sound of the 98-02 V6 accord.

I've driven those, and I've driven a 2005 V6 accord, and the difference is quite noticeable. Well, from stock 200hp to 240hp, I guess it should be. The 03+ v6 Accord is pretty fast, and the interior is AMAZING, wow, some fucking car that is.

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back to the weight thing ( damn honda. i don't drive a whale ), a xr6 turbo falcon weighs 1795kg, r34 skyline weighs 1666kg and has a more similar engine cc-wise. 1500kg aint really that much for a turbo 3L ( -ish ) i-6. who was it first called the supra a pig ?

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I think the R34 is heavier because of the 4x4, which helps a lot in the takeoffs. I've always heard that the MK3's problem is the takeoffs...

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I have an 89 NA Supra and there is no way I would call this car slow. I am getting my engine in the best possible shape before I do any upgrades (except for the 2 1/2" Magnaflo Cat I bought to get me through inspection) and I'm quite happy with the stock ride. This summer I may go with a header and open the pipe to 2 1/2" to the back, but I've done 140 mph on the highway and if that ain't fast for a car I spent $1900 on then maybe I don't know what I'm talkin about. Also, from what I see in the engine bay of turbos, I'm rather happy that I'm stuck with my NA, as at least I can work on the friggin engine without lifting it out of the car. Enjoy your NA and don't be envious. You got a great car and it'll probably last a lot longer without the turbo.

My 2 cents,

James in NJ

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Yeah, thanks for your opinion, good one.

The 7M turbo looks very tight in the engine bay, but have you seen a 1JZ in there? It really cleans up that engine bay. I'd love to have a 1JZ supra...

The bad thing is, in here, most shops that install the 1JZ, they WELD the engine mounts somewhere. I don't like that. I know of a guy who did a much cleaner engine swap, no welding. I don't know exactly how he did it. I've heard that with an 89+ crossmember one can do the swap without welding anything, the engine just fits perfectly. That engine has a reputation for never breaking, just like the 2JZ. No head gaskets, not anything. I'd love to get my hands on a decent-mileage 1JZ... 280HP STOCK? Are you kidding me? One could get over 300 to the wheels with cheap mods and I'd daily drive the fucker. =) That's my dream :P

If you want to dosomething for free, not really recomended thou. The front of my stock air box was broken, so i decided to cut it out completely, so now the front of my airbox is just an open cylinder, and i have a k&n filter already. this made a pretty noticeable increase in power, and it sounds awesome. it has that 4 barrel v8 intake sound right around 3k rpms. It might get annoying to some people but my exhaust is pretty loud though so i dont really care.

so basicly its just a open filter?