7M-GE swap to 7M-GTE Questions

Supra2NR · 07-18-2006, 01:06 AM

hello everybody, im the dumbass that overreved and threw my rods,

i found a 7mgte for 600, now do i need the tranny from the turbo, ot would the n/a tranny will do fine

cuz somebody is selling me a turbo tranny for 200
sum advise b4 this deal passes

tone loc · 07-18-2006, 03:20 AM

the n/a tranny should work but if its a r-154 i would buy it.

newbsupra · 07-18-2006, 04:54 AM

i want to get around 300hp running N/A.. im doing.. intake, exhaust and cutting my cat out for now.. then probibly a down pipe.. then ill run electric fans.. and get a different underdrive pully. not sure what ill be at after all that. my friend knows a guy that might hook me up with a turbo, not sure yet tho. maybe take out my ac.. then it doesnt have to turn that too and ill lose a few pounds.

my intake/exhaust/cat will get me 15-20hp? better low/high rpm power.

tone loc · 07-18-2006, 02:14 PM

i hear the w58 (n/a trans) can hold up from 300-350 hp but if you plan on putting more hp go with r-154 and if you put the 7mgte in dont forget a new clucth.

Isphius · 07-18-2006, 07:43 PM

newbsupra, You going to have to do a lot more work than that to make 300hp from the na motor. And its called a header on an N/A, not a downpipe. And yes get a header, good mod to do on any car. I would suggest getting the block decked for more compression, Thinner head gasket, Try to find some better cams, And def a new intake manifold and new/modified throttle body. Its hard to find n/a parts because so many people mod the turbos up. And for the original post, Despite what it looks like, Doing the turbo swap can be a LOT of money. More so than just looking for a turbo car, driving many miles to get it, and drivin back. Aside from just the parts, you have to account for a lot of other things. Will your new motor/turbo/trans/any other part need a rebuild or replacement? will you have all the right nuts&bolts(thing a lot of people dont realize is hard to find at times), The ecu, The wiring harness, All the sensors working/included, All the piping, the intercooler, the oil lines, Youll need a whole new exhaust put on, And a lot of other stuff that you just find along the way. So trust the expert (menickleeye) lol. The only way id say do the swap is if you have the car and/or motor and parts already

Supra2NR · 07-18-2006, 09:20 PM

how would one know if its a r154
what about the ecu,

newbsupra · 07-18-2006, 11:37 PM

my bad about saying downpipe. yes i dont expect to get that kind of power with just those mods, i was just listing some of what i have planned. i just think it would be funnier beating these moded cars with a n/a supra. ill eventually get a turbo, but dont have the money for now. there's a neon around here i want to beat, it will take awhile. he's running a stage 4 turbo on a SRT4 engine.. putting out 410 fwhp and 405lb-ft.. runs a 11.9 in the 1/4 with stock tires. and with all this done, before bolting on a turbo, the gain will be big.

tone loc · 09-23-2006, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra2NR

how would one know if its a r154
what about the ecu,

the r-154 is bigger and in the tsrm manual section you can see a couple diffrences and on google look up r-154 images and w-58(non turbo manual transmissions) and you will be able to compare that way. (thats how i did it)

Isphius · 09-23-2006, 06:07 AM

Your gona need a lot more work than youd think haha...look up defiant_7m on supra forums. Hes got a 101mm stroke and 14:1 compression. No power numbers yet thou lol. Making power is all about compression. Either by using a turbo to stuff air in or by putting in huge pistons...compression is what makes the power

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbsupra

i want to get around 300hp running N/A.. im doing.. intake, exhaust and cutting my cat out for now.. then probibly a down pipe.. then ill run electric fans.. and get a different underdrive pully. not sure what ill be at after all that. my friend knows a guy that might hook me up with a turbo, not sure yet tho. maybe take out my ac.. then it doesnt have to turn that too and ill lose a few pounds.

my intake/exhaust/cat will get me 15-20hp? better low/high rpm power.

tone loc · 09-26-2006, 09:10 PM

14:1? thats awesome
a standard car is usally like what 10:1?

07-18-2006, 01:06 AM	#1
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	hello everybody, im the dumbass that overreved and threw my rods, i found a 7mgte for 600, now do i need the tranny from the turbo, ot would the n/a tranny will do fine cuz somebody is selling me a turbo tranny for 200 sum advise b4 this deal passes __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

07-18-2006, 04:54 AM	#3
newbsupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sask/Canada Posts: 238	i want to get around 300hp running N/A.. im doing.. intake, exhaust and cutting my cat out for now.. then probibly a down pipe.. then ill run electric fans.. and get a different underdrive pully. not sure what ill be at after all that. my friend knows a guy that might hook me up with a turbo, not sure yet tho. maybe take out my ac.. then it doesnt have to turn that too and ill lose a few pounds. my intake/exhaust/cat will get me 15-20hp? better low/high rpm power. Last edited by newbsupra; 07-18-2006 at 04:56 AM.

07-18-2006, 02:14 PM	#4
tone loc 20psi boost Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 706	i hear the w58 (n/a trans) can hold up from 300-350 hp but if you plan on putting more hp go with r-154 and if you put the 7mgte in dont forget a new clucth. Last edited by tone loc; 07-18-2006 at 02:37 PM.

07-18-2006, 07:43 PM	#5
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	newbsupra, You going to have to do a lot more work than that to make 300hp from the na motor. And its called a header on an N/A, not a downpipe. And yes get a header, good mod to do on any car. I would suggest getting the block decked for more compression, Thinner head gasket, Try to find some better cams, And def a new intake manifold and new/modified throttle body. Its hard to find n/a parts because so many people mod the turbos up. And for the original post, Despite what it looks like, Doing the turbo swap can be a LOT of money. More so than just looking for a turbo car, driving many miles to get it, and drivin back. Aside from just the parts, you have to account for a lot of other things. Will your new motor/turbo/trans/any other part need a rebuild or replacement? will you have all the right nuts&bolts(thing a lot of people dont realize is hard to find at times), The ecu, The wiring harness, All the sensors working/included, All the piping, the intercooler, the oil lines, Youll need a whole new exhaust put on, And a lot of other stuff that you just find along the way. So trust the expert (menickleeye) lol. The only way id say do the swap is if you have the car and/or motor and parts already __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

07-18-2006, 09:20 PM	#6
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	how would one know if its a r154 what about the ecu, __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

07-18-2006, 03:20 AM	#2
tone loc 20psi boost Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 706	the n/a tranny should work but if its a r-154 i would buy it.

07-18-2006, 11:37 PM	#7
newbsupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sask/Canada Posts: 238	my bad about saying downpipe. yes i dont expect to get that kind of power with just those mods, i was just listing some of what i have planned. i just think it would be funnier beating these moded cars with a n/a supra. ill eventually get a turbo, but dont have the money for now. there's a neon around here i want to beat, it will take awhile. he's running a stage 4 turbo on a SRT4 engine.. putting out 410 fwhp and 405lb-ft.. runs a 11.9 in the 1/4 with stock tires. and with all this done, before bolting on a turbo, the gain will be big. Last edited by newbsupra; 07-18-2006 at 11:40 PM.

09-26-2006, 09:10 PM	#10
tone loc 20psi boost Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 706	14:1? thats awesome a standard car is usally like what 10:1?

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