WTF? is this for real?

XtreeX · 02-26-2006, 08:38 AM

I saw this thing on Ebay... is this for real or a scam?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-2...ayphotohosting

Sorry I don't know how to do links. Basically, all it is is a "speed" chip that acts as a "piggy back" to the ECU that increases the fuel injection to the motor and supposively is dyno proven to increase hp by 15-20. Lemme know what you guys think and if you can get to the link or not. Thanks guys.

Isphius · 02-26-2006, 10:34 AM

im sure it would work, hp numbers i dont think would be that high thou. as long as they make those right. from what im getting from the ad, it changes the output resistance of the MAF(very easy to do, which = cheap)to say its reading different temperature air, making it either advance the timing/fuel or lean the motor out a little for a better combustion, not sure exactly what that would do. its possible to burn a motor up(over lean) or cause pinging/detonation(advance timing too much) that way tho.

XtreeX · 02-26-2006, 11:47 AM

i dont know if i really feel like blowing my engine up lol... or detonating it with a $10 piece of electronic.

KNYFE · 02-26-2006, 04:52 PM

Anything that changes info to the computer aside from actual conditions is not good. A cold air intake actually cools the air so not a big deal but telling the computer it is different then actual? Not good. Any item on ebay you ever see that brags about hp for $1/1hp ratio probably isn't worth it. Also, if you read feedback on these type of items, many say that it wasn't worth it. Don't you think that for $10 everyone here and in every other automotive forum would have them and brag about them?

Strannik · 02-27-2006, 04:18 AM

it will lean out your a/f ratios which will give you more power and less fuel consumption, but in the end you might melt your pistons if it leans it out by too much.
better stay away from it
there are heaps of other mods which can be done under 20$

Isphius · 02-27-2006, 04:46 PM

i never suggested using it haa, just said it would probably work. i posted my warnings at the end too.

Reeves · 02-28-2006, 06:27 AM

What kind of mods, Strannik? I am currently working on getting my 87t in mint condition, and then I plan on modding it a bit. It has 255k on it, but the engine was rebuilt ~35k miles ago.This is my first car and I use it as a daily driver, so any cheap and easy to install mods are great.

Any help is appreciated

.

hangsupra · 02-28-2006, 06:53 AM

trust me thats not gonna help.... cause i have a buddy use to have those part on his mk3... and 3weeks later on.... he busted out his ecu... cause it got toasted.... and what it does is that... when we open those cheap box... and inside the box... they just use a little ohm resister (spelling need help) to trip the ecu to read cold air... and to me it seens like they just want to cross over your ecu... so its better for stay away from those type of thing... i pretty sure that they have a spacer for the mk2/mk3... find one of this spacer and use on your mk3 thortle body... and it sure give you horse.... thats what i were using on my mk2 tho.... cause i got for free from my bro. in the tokyo. cause he is a serg. base in tokyo right now... and he brough one for me in this past x-mas.. and it does make a diff.... and i hope you can find one of this thortle spacer somewhere in the US.

suprra_girl · 02-28-2006, 08:28 AM

bla bla bla bla chips

= don't waste your time or money

get a safc, emanage, aftermarket ecu etc if you want to screw with the engine but at least you are screwing with it with the right tools

basically.... no chips

k

supraboy8809 · 03-09-2006, 02:31 AM

i know someone that bought one of these and it did absolutly nothing it gave him worse gas milage which in turn would make it even slower because if you do not need the extra gas it is going to make your car run richer and more bogged out on hard acceleration.

02-26-2006, 08:38 AM	#1
XtreeX 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 92	WTF? is this for real? I saw this thing on Ebay... is this for real or a scam? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-2...ayphotohosting Sorry I don't know how to do links. Basically, all it is is a "speed" chip that acts as a "piggy back" to the ECU that increases the fuel injection to the motor and supposively is dyno proven to increase hp by 15-20. Lemme know what you guys think and if you can get to the link or not. Thanks guys.

02-26-2006, 10:34 AM	#2
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	im sure it would work, hp numbers i dont think would be that high thou. as long as they make those right. from what im getting from the ad, it changes the output resistance of the MAF(very easy to do, which = cheap)to say its reading different temperature air, making it either advance the timing/fuel or lean the motor out a little for a better combustion, not sure exactly what that would do. its possible to burn a motor up(over lean) or cause pinging/detonation(advance timing too much) that way tho. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!! Last edited by Isphius; 02-26-2006 at 10:38 AM.

02-26-2006, 04:52 PM	#4
KNYFE 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Willmar, MN Posts: 131	Anything that changes info to the computer aside from actual conditions is not good. A cold air intake actually cools the air so not a big deal but telling the computer it is different then actual? Not good. Any item on ebay you ever see that brags about hp for $1/1hp ratio probably isn't worth it. Also, if you read feedback on these type of items, many say that it wasn't worth it. Don't you think that for $10 everyone here and in every other automotive forum would have them and brag about them? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/id/FastnLowI30 Supra, I30 and A8 are above...

02-27-2006, 04:18 AM	#5
Strannik 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 51	it will lean out your a/f ratios which will give you more power and less fuel consumption, but in the end you might melt your pistons if it leans it out by too much. better stay away from it there are heaps of other mods which can be done under 20$ __________________

02-27-2006, 04:46 PM	#6
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	i never suggested using it haa, just said it would probably work. i posted my warnings at the end too. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

02-26-2006, 11:47 AM	#3
XtreeX 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 92	i dont know if i really feel like blowing my engine up lol... or detonating it with a $10 piece of electronic.

02-28-2006, 06:27 AM	#7
Reeves 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 98	What kind of mods, Strannik? I am currently working on getting my 87t in mint condition, and then I plan on modding it a bit. It has 255k on it, but the engine was rebuilt ~35k miles ago.This is my first car and I use it as a daily driver, so any cheap and easy to install mods are great. Any help is appreciated .

02-28-2006, 06:53 AM	#8
hangsupra 12psi boost Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 209 area in cali. Posts: 397	trust me thats not gonna help.... cause i have a buddy use to have those part on his mk3... and 3weeks later on.... he busted out his ecu... cause it got toasted.... and what it does is that... when we open those cheap box... and inside the box... they just use a little ohm resister (spelling need help) to trip the ecu to read cold air... and to me it seens like they just want to cross over your ecu... so its better for stay away from those type of thing... i pretty sure that they have a spacer for the mk2/mk3... find one of this spacer and use on your mk3 thortle body... and it sure give you horse.... thats what i were using on my mk2 tho.... cause i got for free from my bro. in the tokyo. cause he is a serg. base in tokyo right now... and he brough one for me in this past x-mas.. and it does make a diff.... and i hope you can find one of this thortle spacer somewhere in the US.

02-28-2006, 08:28 AM	#9
suprra_girl 7M POWAH! ;) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,312	bla bla bla bla chips = don't waste your time or money get a safc, emanage, aftermarket ecu etc if you want to screw with the engine but at least you are screwing with it with the right tools basically.... no chips k __________________ Please use the forum to ask your questions as they will get replied to much faster than pming me Pics of my build. "Good girls are just bad girls that don't get caught" Do a diagnostic first!

03-09-2006, 02:31 AM	#10
supraboy8809 Intake Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	crap i know someone that bought one of these and it did absolutly nothing it gave him worse gas milage which in turn would make it even slower because if you do not need the extra gas it is going to make your car run richer and more bogged out on hard acceleration.