Wideband question.

rnoswal · 07-01-2006, 12:34 AM

I have been trying to find info on the wideband sensor. Is there a popular kit or pieces to buy to fit my 87 Turbo? I have the Lexus afm now with injectors, but it seems to run pretty rich. I think I need the o2 sensor but if I am going to get one, I would like to know my options as far as the wideband and its benefits.

Thanks
Russ

rnoswal · 07-02-2006, 04:23 AM

Anyone?

Russ

suprra_girl · 07-02-2006, 12:32 PM

i seemed to have missed this thread sorry bud

ZT2 ftw!

www.zeitronix.com
i bought this unit and it is awesome

really accurate and can datalog for up to 9hours i believe
go there and read up on it

rnoswal · 07-03-2006, 02:38 AM

Thanks for the reply. I read the info on the unit and it seems very complete. What if any extras did you buy and for the most important question, how does it hook into the engine management system? It seems like I saw the show Two Guys Garage use something like this, but they went over it so fast I didn't quite hear how it worked.

Anyway, thanks and let me know how it works on your car and how it improved it.

Russ

ddmcse · 07-03-2006, 04:39 PM

russ with your lexus afm do you use an adjustable screw to allow un metered air ?

http://suprasonic.org/lexusriemer/lexusnotes.html

suprra_girl · 07-03-2006, 11:30 PM

i didn't buy any extras but i will be buying the boost sensor and egt sensor & harnesses so i can have complete datalogging
i got the bundle that came with a screen

it wires directy into the ecu for datalogging of tps rpm etc and for powering up
it has it's own harness for the 02 sensor

it doesn't improve a vehicle at all
it helps you make sure you don't blow it up

by having a screen there that tells you your exact air fuel, it's an extreme comfort thing

rnoswal · 07-04-2006, 02:23 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................ darn, I was hoping it would take the place of the original o2 sensor and improve on the data and relay it to the fuel management system and run an even better a/f ratio and timing system. I guess if you have the data then maybe you can adjust things somewhere to make it run closer to optimum, but that is what I originally thought the wideband sensor was supposed to do.

DDMCSE, I havent' checked to see how the screw is set. I just put it in and then the plastic deal on top that was originally on the Supra afm. Does adjusting the screw help with anything? Just curious.

Thanks

Russ

Isphius · 07-04-2006, 06:21 AM

Yes...its just knowing whats going on with the motor. Which allows you to improve the motor in the future, And is also very very helpful for mods and trouble shooting. A piggyback fuel computer i think is what your looking for...It adjusts the air meter/o2 sensor signal to set the air/fuel at whatever you want. Im not too sure...because ive never used one tho. Just researched em up.

ddmcse · 07-05-2006, 10:26 AM

the screw allows un-metered air to pass through which would effect the a/f mixture , which might help your rich mix

rnoswal · 07-06-2006, 11:02 AM

I looked inside the meter and it looks like the stock screw is still in its unaltered place. It sticks out about a quarter of an inch but leaves most of the lower opening open. I notice that I do have a problem with the airfilter adapter though. It blocks some of the airflow at the corners of the afm. It was the adapter for the original supra afm, but since the opening for the Lexus afm is larger, the corners get blocked some. It is open at the corners but not a straight shot there. I guess I will have to some how pound the corners out to open that up.

Thanks
Russ

07-01-2006, 12:34 AM	#1
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Wideband question. I have been trying to find info on the wideband sensor. Is there a popular kit or pieces to buy to fit my 87 Turbo? I have the Lexus afm now with injectors, but it seems to run pretty rich. I think I need the o2 sensor but if I am going to get one, I would like to know my options as far as the wideband and its benefits. Thanks Russ

07-02-2006, 12:32 PM	#3
suprra_girl 7M POWAH! ;) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,312	i seemed to have missed this thread sorry bud ZT2 ftw! www.zeitronix.com i bought this unit and it is awesome really accurate and can datalog for up to 9hours i believe go there and read up on it __________________ Please use the forum to ask your questions as they will get replied to much faster than pming me Pics of my build. "Good girls are just bad girls that don't get caught" Do a diagnostic first!

07-03-2006, 04:39 PM	#5
ddmcse 500whp yet? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CT U.S.A. Posts: 966	russ with your lexus afm do you use an adjustable screw to allow un metered air ? http://suprasonic.org/lexusriemer/lexusnotes.html __________________ 300+ RW HP Dyno run, jdm,mod turbo,3"exh,electfan,greddyboost Blown HeadGasket info My Supra KiXGaS

07-03-2006, 11:30 PM	#6
suprra_girl 7M POWAH! ;) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,312	i didn't buy any extras but i will be buying the boost sensor and egt sensor & harnesses so i can have complete datalogging i got the bundle that came with a screen it wires directy into the ecu for datalogging of tps rpm etc and for powering up it has it's own harness for the 02 sensor it doesn't improve a vehicle at all it helps you make sure you don't blow it up by having a screen there that tells you your exact air fuel, it's an extreme comfort thing __________________ Please use the forum to ask your questions as they will get replied to much faster than pming me Pics of my build. "Good girls are just bad girls that don't get caught" Do a diagnostic first!

07-04-2006, 02:23 AM	#7
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................ darn, I was hoping it would take the place of the original o2 sensor and improve on the data and relay it to the fuel management system and run an even better a/f ratio and timing system. I guess if you have the data then maybe you can adjust things somewhere to make it run closer to optimum, but that is what I originally thought the wideband sensor was supposed to do. DDMCSE, I havent' checked to see how the screw is set. I just put it in and then the plastic deal on top that was originally on the Supra afm. Does adjusting the screw help with anything? Just curious. Thanks Russ Last edited by rnoswal; 07-04-2006 at 03:55 PM.

07-02-2006, 04:23 AM	#2
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Anyone? Russ

07-03-2006, 02:38 AM	#4
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Thanks for the reply. I read the info on the unit and it seems very complete. What if any extras did you buy and for the most important question, how does it hook into the engine management system? It seems like I saw the show Two Guys Garage use something like this, but they went over it so fast I didn't quite hear how it worked. Anyway, thanks and let me know how it works on your car and how it improved it. Russ

07-04-2006, 06:21 AM	#8
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	Yes...its just knowing whats going on with the motor. Which allows you to improve the motor in the future, And is also very very helpful for mods and trouble shooting. A piggyback fuel computer i think is what your looking for...It adjusts the air meter/o2 sensor signal to set the air/fuel at whatever you want. Im not too sure...because ive never used one tho. Just researched em up. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

07-05-2006, 10:26 AM	#9
ddmcse 500whp yet? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CT U.S.A. Posts: 966	the screw allows un-metered air to pass through which would effect the a/f mixture , which might help your rich mix __________________ 300+ RW HP Dyno run, jdm,mod turbo,3"exh,electfan,greddyboost Blown HeadGasket info My Supra KiXGaS

07-06-2006, 11:02 AM	#10
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	I looked inside the meter and it looks like the stock screw is still in its unaltered place. It sticks out about a quarter of an inch but leaves most of the lower opening open. I notice that I do have a problem with the airfilter adapter though. It blocks some of the airflow at the corners of the afm. It was the adapter for the original supra afm, but since the opening for the Lexus afm is larger, the corners get blocked some. It is open at the corners but not a straight shot there. I guess I will have to some how pound the corners out to open that up. Thanks Russ