Low-budget sleeper

Audi · 07-31-2006, 02:26 AM

How can my friend and I make his 3rd gen Supra beat a 240whp Turbo Talon (fwd) by a long shot?

I'm thinking nitrous and electric cutout. I hear the 7MGE is a strong motor, so it should be able to hold a hefty shot... I hope.

Let me know what is needed to do- BTW, the motor was swapped in and the owner said the "new" motor had 30k on it....

THanks,

Supra2NR · 07-31-2006, 03:23 AM

u wanna beat that talon?

first of all our cars are too heavy to compare with that
2ndly, u put a shot of nos in your engine without any other mods
you might as well say goodbye to that new 30k engine

new crankshaft
new pulley
new cams
maybe a new clutch
a fidanza lighweight flywheel
new injectors if you wanna run nos (i suggest, 75 shot wet)
forged pistons with coating
new rods
a metal head gasket (most important)

i think those would be enough
and you will beat that talon by a long shot

supra90turbo · 07-31-2006, 04:06 PM

better idea:
http://www.4cefed.com/conversion.html

Dejvid1785 · 07-31-2006, 05:22 PM

Very smart idea! Aha

Isphius · 07-31-2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra2NR

u wanna beat that talon?

first of all our cars are too heavy to compare with that
2ndly, u put a shot of nos in your engine without any other mods
you might as well say goodbye to that new 30k engine

new crankshaft
new pulley
new cams
maybe a new clutch
a fidanza lighweight flywheel
new injectors if you wanna run nos (i suggest, 75 shot wet)
forged pistons with coating
new rods
a metal head gasket (most important)

i think those would be enough
and you will beat that talon by a long shot

I will agree on most of the parts, But you dont need cams pulleys or the flywheel. They may help, But trying to fit the low-budget thing ha. And if only a 75 shot, the bottom end would hold up fine, just need the mhg. If more, id say build the bottom end. And remember you need traction

dont just need to mod the motor. This is a talon tsi im assuming so its AWD and about 1500lbs give or take lighter. (im exhagerating).

Isphius · 08-01-2006, 02:03 AM

I also forgot to mention, Get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a BAMF fuel pump. Then youll be set.

Supra2NR · 08-01-2006, 08:20 AM

well i was jus you know

hoping for the best but preparing for the worst

he wanted a sleeper, so no turbo, no exhaust, nothing that makes any sound, or any showing outside the hood

i jus thought he would need every part that he can to beat that car

those cars are crazy, i wouldnt race em,
but awd and weighs less than half our car?

thats at least 1500 lbs so which translates to :
he will beat you by at least a second and a half

Isphius · 08-01-2006, 01:04 PM

They only weigh about 2500 ish. Not quite half, But sure as hell not as heavy. But im sure with a 75-100 shot of nos and the motor ups to handle it, He should be pretty well off as long as the talon isnt modded a shitload. And i just read that its front wheel drive, So it must not be a tsi...oh well. That means you will have the traction advantage instead of the other way around. lol.

burton51m · 08-01-2006, 01:34 PM

TSI talons are not fast. i found out last night riding in my friend's firebird formula. he beat that talon tsi by about the same distance he does my stock n/a auto supra when we race. what i am saying is it will be a close race.

the talon that we raced was pretty much stock except his BOV. he was also manual.

is your friends supra auto or manual?

j3pz · 08-01-2006, 10:43 PM

onee thing i didnt see on the list is an intake filter, but it may make a sucking noise so i dont know if your friend will want that.

07-31-2006, 02:26 AM	#1
Audi Stock Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2	Low-budget sleeper How can my friend and I make his 3rd gen Supra beat a 240whp Turbo Talon (fwd) by a long shot? I'm thinking nitrous and electric cutout. I hear the 7MGE is a strong motor, so it should be able to hold a hefty shot... I hope. Let me know what is needed to do- BTW, the motor was swapped in and the owner said the "new" motor had 30k on it.... THanks, __________________ -Derek

07-31-2006, 03:23 AM	#2
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	u wanna beat that talon? first of all our cars are too heavy to compare with that 2ndly, u put a shot of nos in your engine without any other mods you might as well say goodbye to that new 30k engine new crankshaft new pulley new cams maybe a new clutch a fidanza lighweight flywheel new injectors if you wanna run nos (i suggest, 75 shot wet) forged pistons with coating new rods a metal head gasket (most important) i think those would be enough and you will beat that talon by a long shot __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

07-31-2006, 04:06 PM	#3
supra90turbo 3" Exhaust Join Date: May 2006 Location: MA, 01468 Posts: 155	better idea: http://www.4cefed.com/conversion.html __________________ Last edited by supra90turbo; 07-31-2006 at 04:09 PM.

07-31-2006, 05:22 PM	#4
Dejvid1785 3" Exhaust Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 193	Very smart idea! Aha __________________ 88 Targa: Exhaust, Headers, Intake

08-01-2006, 02:03 AM	#6
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	I also forgot to mention, Get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a BAMF fuel pump. Then youll be set. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

08-01-2006, 08:20 AM	#7
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	well i was jus you know hoping for the best but preparing for the worst he wanted a sleeper, so no turbo, no exhaust, nothing that makes any sound, or any showing outside the hood i jus thought he would need every part that he can to beat that car those cars are crazy, i wouldnt race em, but awd and weighs less than half our car? thats at least 1500 lbs so which translates to : he will beat you by at least a second and a half __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

08-01-2006, 01:04 PM	#8
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	They only weigh about 2500 ish. Not quite half, But sure as hell not as heavy. But im sure with a 75-100 shot of nos and the motor ups to handle it, He should be pretty well off as long as the talon isnt modded a shitload. And i just read that its front wheel drive, So it must not be a tsi...oh well. That means you will have the traction advantage instead of the other way around. lol. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

08-01-2006, 01:34 PM	#9
burton51m Lexus & 550's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 536	TSI talons are not fast. i found out last night riding in my friend's firebird formula. he beat that talon tsi by about the same distance he does my stock n/a auto supra when we race. what i am saying is it will be a close race. the talon that we raced was pretty much stock except his BOV. he was also manual. is your friends supra auto or manual? __________________ Last edited by burton51m; 08-01-2006 at 01:38 PM.

08-01-2006, 10:43 PM	#10
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	onee thing i didnt see on the list is an intake filter, but it may make a sucking noise so i dont know if your friend will want that. __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

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