7mgte vs 1jz TT vs 2jz TT

inline6 turbo · 08-03-2006, 09:58 PM

right now my car is running the 7mgte motor but im planning on doing a motor swap...But im not sure what motor would be better im driving(well its in the shop gettin painted and re-aposterd) a 1989 targa top supra. Can anybody tell me which motor would be better for the swap and which one would gain me the most improve power in..the 1/4mile...0-60time and fastest accleration overall...thank you

car...1989 targo top super...white paint blue interior...stock..so far

Supra2NR · 08-05-2006, 06:43 AM

le me see where to start

ok

the 7mgte vs 1jzgte
almost the same identical engine except the 1jz has twins
you can achive this with the 7m also with the help of a custom downpipe
thier capabilities are almost the same
power is almost the same (not stock to stock of course)
but stock the 1jz has more power than the 7m
but once again it can be duplicated

7mgte vs 2jzgte
there is almost no comparison
2jz is the best engine that toyota ever made
power is no comparison
i dunt think the 2jz has the headgasket problem like the 7m (look that up)
all you need to do is port the head maybe oversized piston, and your good to go with the bolt-on power
but the big issue is the power:money ratio
the 2jz engine itself is expensive enough already
plus the only thing you can get is probly from an aristo
not the original 2jz's that came from supras

1jzgte vs 2jzgte
2jz all the way since it can handle more abuse than the 1jz
and the other stuff is above about this engines

my suggestion: see how much the 1jz conversion is gonna run you
then see how much to get a custom downpipe and other stuff so u can get a second turbo with your 7mgte

whatever is cheaper or easier go for that one

i did this researches online
this is to the best of my knowledge
cuz im also looking for a new engine
hope this helps you out

inline6 turbo · 08-06-2006, 07:18 AM

thanx it helps alot. Ive looked online and seen a 1jz for 1900 and a 2jz for 2300 but im just mainly concern about the issue of labor cost and etc to swap and convert it....but i know dats the down side buh its a major upside cuz the 2jz does not have the headgasket problem....ive thougth about doing the twin set up on the 7mgte but then again...i dont think the gasket will hold even if i replace it and resurface it install a better one. but if i find out it works i would prolly do the conversion to the twin set up but righ now i prolly will go with a 2jz swap...cuz money come and money go

Supra2NR · 08-06-2006, 08:42 PM

if by any chance you do this soon
can you sell me your 7mgte
im looking for an engine right now
and its hard to find

newbsupra · 08-06-2006, 09:06 PM

my friend can import a 1jz for around $1000cdn. i was thinking of the swap in my 87 7mge.. but there i need the new tranny and everything. what do you think? find a 89+ with a blown engine and swap it instead of doing a conversion?

inline6 turbo · 08-08-2006, 12:40 AM

well is ur 87 in good condition already if so i would stay with the 87 buh i think the 89+ is better i know a supra fanatic dats has a 1jz in his 91 or was it 92 supra with a custom Intercooler and hes frame holds the power hes pushing aorund 350 and his bro has a 92 supra with a 2jz motor pushing 500 and they have no problem with the body at all so i say to go with the 89+ unless u love ur 87...and or get a good 89+ and sell the motor and use that cash to help pay for the 1jz swap....hope that helps and doesnt confuse you

j3pz · 08-08-2006, 02:22 AM

if money is tight i wouldnt even think of a motor swap. but if money aint a problem then ok. the thing with the 1jz is the limited aftermarket support, its hard to find parts out there. if you got money falling outa your pockets, you got a shop you can take it too, and you have alot of experience working on motors and such then the 2jz would be what you want, but if you got money to throw around im sure you wouldnt be fiddleing with a mkiii. point is i would suggest sticking to the 7m

Supra2NR · 08-08-2006, 04:57 AM

thats true
the 7m and the 1jz
are almost close to each other
that the conversion wont even be that much

2jz is the way to go (if you have money)
if not stick with the 7m
its not a bad engine
only the headgasket
but inline6 doesnt stink

kwnate · 08-08-2006, 01:26 PM

My 7m-gte just laid down 667rwhp and 591tq. It's not stock though...

Supra2NR · 08-08-2006, 03:52 PM

thats cold

why dont list sum of the mods that you got
so the rest of us will get an idea what we need to do?
when your running high horses like that,
did you get a mhg?(assuming you did already)
but does it still blow?

08-03-2006, 09:58 PM	#1
inline6 turbo Stock Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long beach Posts: 16	7mgte vs 1jz TT vs 2jz TT right now my car is running the 7mgte motor but im planning on doing a motor swap...But im not sure what motor would be better im driving(well its in the shop gettin painted and re-aposterd) a 1989 targa top supra. Can anybody tell me which motor would be better for the swap and which one would gain me the most improve power in..the 1/4mile...0-60time and fastest accleration overall...thank you car...1989 targo top super...white paint blue interior...stock..so far

08-05-2006, 06:43 AM	#2
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	le me see where to start ok the 7mgte vs 1jzgte almost the same identical engine except the 1jz has twins you can achive this with the 7m also with the help of a custom downpipe thier capabilities are almost the same power is almost the same (not stock to stock of course) but stock the 1jz has more power than the 7m but once again it can be duplicated 7mgte vs 2jzgte there is almost no comparison 2jz is the best engine that toyota ever made power is no comparison i dunt think the 2jz has the headgasket problem like the 7m (look that up) all you need to do is port the head maybe oversized piston, and your good to go with the bolt-on power but the big issue is the power:money ratio the 2jz engine itself is expensive enough already plus the only thing you can get is probly from an aristo not the original 2jz's that came from supras 1jzgte vs 2jzgte 2jz all the way since it can handle more abuse than the 1jz and the other stuff is above about this engines my suggestion: see how much the 1jz conversion is gonna run you then see how much to get a custom downpipe and other stuff so u can get a second turbo with your 7mgte whatever is cheaper or easier go for that one i did this researches online this is to the best of my knowledge cuz im also looking for a new engine hope this helps you out __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

08-06-2006, 08:42 PM	#4
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	if by any chance you do this soon can you sell me your 7mgte im looking for an engine right now and its hard to find __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

08-06-2006, 09:06 PM	#5
newbsupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sask/Canada Posts: 238	my friend can import a 1jz for around $1000cdn. i was thinking of the swap in my 87 7mge.. but there i need the new tranny and everything. what do you think? find a 89+ with a blown engine and swap it instead of doing a conversion? __________________

08-08-2006, 02:22 AM	#7
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	if money is tight i wouldnt even think of a motor swap. but if money aint a problem then ok. the thing with the 1jz is the limited aftermarket support, its hard to find parts out there. if you got money falling outa your pockets, you got a shop you can take it too, and you have alot of experience working on motors and such then the 2jz would be what you want, but if you got money to throw around im sure you wouldnt be fiddleing with a mkiii. point is i would suggest sticking to the 7m __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

08-06-2006, 07:18 AM	#3
inline6 turbo Stock Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long beach Posts: 16	thanx it helps alot. Ive looked online and seen a 1jz for 1900 and a 2jz for 2300 but im just mainly concern about the issue of labor cost and etc to swap and convert it....but i know dats the down side buh its a major upside cuz the 2jz does not have the headgasket problem....ive thougth about doing the twin set up on the 7mgte but then again...i dont think the gasket will hold even if i replace it and resurface it install a better one. but if i find out it works i would prolly do the conversion to the twin set up but righ now i prolly will go with a 2jz swap...cuz money come and money go

08-08-2006, 12:40 AM	#6
inline6 turbo Stock Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long beach Posts: 16	well is ur 87 in good condition already if so i would stay with the 87 buh i think the 89+ is better i know a supra fanatic dats has a 1jz in his 91 or was it 92 supra with a custom Intercooler and hes frame holds the power hes pushing aorund 350 and his bro has a 92 supra with a 2jz motor pushing 500 and they have no problem with the body at all so i say to go with the 89+ unless u love ur 87...and or get a good 89+ and sell the motor and use that cash to help pay for the 1jz swap....hope that helps and doesnt confuse you

08-08-2006, 04:57 AM	#8
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	thats true the 7m and the 1jz are almost close to each other that the conversion wont even be that much 2jz is the way to go (if you have money) if not stick with the 7m its not a bad engine only the headgasket but inline6 doesnt stink __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

08-08-2006, 01:26 PM	#9
kwnate SP58GT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 633	My 7m-gte just laid down 667rwhp and 591tq. It's not stock though... __________________ Nate

08-08-2006, 03:52 PM	#10
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	thats cold why dont list sum of the mods that you got so the rest of us will get an idea what we need to do? when your running high horses like that, did you get a mhg?(assuming you did already) but does it still blow? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

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