help with getting repairs started (total Newbie)

ebang · 02-04-2007, 08:03 PM

I just bought a 87 non turbo..it needs engine work. I am starting with trying to change the plugs and wires...I have NEVER done this before. From what I can see some of the plugs are easy to get to but the rest I need to remove a bunch of stuff to get to. Does anyone have a step by step with some pics that I can use....oh yeah when I drove the car home during decelleration for a high speed the car shuts off did this every time...any suggestions...thanks all

supra_91 · 02-05-2007, 05:00 PM

try using the TSRM. it helps a lot

http://www.cyngusx1.net/supra/techtips.aspx

rnoswal · 02-07-2007, 02:03 AM

Get a manual for the car, and yes the TSRM here is also great. But get the manual and if need be, take pictures of what you are going to work on so you can compare when you put it back together. Also, number the wires or color code them. Always blow out the spark plug holes before you remove them. There is usually some oil, water, dirt or all three that can fall into the hole when you pull the plugs and that might cause the valve to stay open in that cylinder.

Take your time and ask a friend that has some car experience to help. It doesn't have to be Supra experience, but just remember that you are working mostly with aluminum and it is soft, so you can't tighten the hell out of the bolts. The spark plugs can be cross threaded so if they don't go in easy, clean the threads, and ALWAYS use anti seize on the threads!

Good luck and keep us informed

Russ

Oh yeah and the part about the car dieing has me stumped too. I have replaced the afm to the larger one, the fuel filter, o2 sensor, better exhaust and I still get the same problem. My daughters car is an N/A and pretty much stock and hers does it too. I am wondering if it might be a problem with the fuel pump as they are still both the originals pumps on both cars. I hope someone has an answer to that one.

ebang · 02-07-2007, 01:53 PM

I managed to replace the plugs and wires and put everything back together, now I want to replace the timing belt, how difficult is it to do this on a scale from 1-10 keeping in mind i have never done this before?

OmeGa · 02-08-2007, 03:08 AM

I would put it at about a 8. Taking everything apart isnt bad, but if you dont line the gears up perfect your timing maybe off by a little bit and may bend your valves. If you do do it, just take you time and make sure everything is perfect before you put it all back together.

ebang · 02-08-2007, 02:39 PM

I guess it is a pretty big job, I was wondering....I called the local dealer and got a quote for 344.00 Canadian sine I am in Ontario, am I better off getting them to do the repair?

IHateHacks · 02-08-2007, 06:19 PM

The 87-92 7M is a non-interference engine. You will not bend the valves if the valve timing is not correctly set.

Hardest part of replacing the timing belt is getting the crank bolt and crank pulley off. Then figureing out how to torque the crank bolt to 195 ft/lbs when you are done.

It took me 10 minutes to replace my timing belt and timing belt tensioner, once the front of the motor was apart.

Toyota timing belt: $38.37
Toyota timing belt tensioner: $136.28
Toyota timing belt tensioner spring: $6.51

US funds.

mrnickleye · 02-09-2007, 06:23 AM

Read thru this,
http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...0793#post30793

and check the TSRM proceedure, EM-22, to get familiar with the job beforehand.

02-04-2007, 08:03 PM	#1
ebang 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 99	help with getting repairs started (total Newbie) I just bought a 87 non turbo..it needs engine work. I am starting with trying to change the plugs and wires...I have NEVER done this before. From what I can see some of the plugs are easy to get to but the rest I need to remove a bunch of stuff to get to. Does anyone have a step by step with some pics that I can use....oh yeah when I drove the car home during decelleration for a high speed the car shuts off did this every time...any suggestions...thanks all

02-05-2007, 05:00 PM	#2
supra_91 Lexus & 550's Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 521	try using the TSRM. it helps a lot http://www.cyngusx1.net/supra/techtips.aspx __________________ 91 N/A automatic supra;K&N FIPK;2.5" custom exhaust;no cat;pacesetter header;eibach springs;tokico "blues";MKIV TT rims

02-07-2007, 02:03 AM	#3
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Get a manual for the car, and yes the TSRM here is also great. But get the manual and if need be, take pictures of what you are going to work on so you can compare when you put it back together. Also, number the wires or color code them. Always blow out the spark plug holes before you remove them. There is usually some oil, water, dirt or all three that can fall into the hole when you pull the plugs and that might cause the valve to stay open in that cylinder. Take your time and ask a friend that has some car experience to help. It doesn't have to be Supra experience, but just remember that you are working mostly with aluminum and it is soft, so you can't tighten the hell out of the bolts. The spark plugs can be cross threaded so if they don't go in easy, clean the threads, and ALWAYS use anti seize on the threads! Good luck and keep us informed Russ Oh yeah and the part about the car dieing has me stumped too. I have replaced the afm to the larger one, the fuel filter, o2 sensor, better exhaust and I still get the same problem. My daughters car is an N/A and pretty much stock and hers does it too. I am wondering if it might be a problem with the fuel pump as they are still both the originals pumps on both cars. I hope someone has an answer to that one. Last edited by rnoswal; 02-07-2007 at 02:07 AM.

02-08-2007, 03:08 AM	#5
OmeGa 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Columbus Posts: 86	I would put it at about a 8. Taking everything apart isnt bad, but if you dont line the gears up perfect your timing maybe off by a little bit and may bend your valves. If you do do it, just take you time and make sure everything is perfect before you put it all back together. __________________

02-09-2007, 06:23 AM	#8
mrnickleye 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, Calif. Posts: 1,705	Read thru this, http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...0793#post30793 and check the TSRM proceedure, EM-22, to get familiar with the job beforehand. __________________ Had a Red 1989 N/A. Automatic. Sports Pkg. w/wing. TEMS, and some nice MODS. Sold to a friend 10/08/08.

02-07-2007, 01:53 PM	#4
ebang 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 99	I managed to replace the plugs and wires and put everything back together, now I want to replace the timing belt, how difficult is it to do this on a scale from 1-10 keeping in mind i have never done this before?

02-08-2007, 02:39 PM	#6
ebang 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 99	I guess it is a pretty big job, I was wondering....I called the local dealer and got a quote for 344.00 Canadian sine I am in Ontario, am I better off getting them to do the repair?

02-08-2007, 06:19 PM	#7
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	The 87-92 7M is a non-interference engine. You will not bend the valves if the valve timing is not correctly set. Hardest part of replacing the timing belt is getting the crank bolt and crank pulley off. Then figureing out how to torque the crank bolt to 195 ft/lbs when you are done. It took me 10 minutes to replace my timing belt and timing belt tensioner, once the front of the motor was apart. Toyota timing belt: $38.37 Toyota timing belt tensioner: $136.28 Toyota timing belt tensioner spring: $6.51 US funds.

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