Home / Toyota Supra Forums

Go Back   Toyota Supra Forums! Join the Supra forum! > Performance, Modification, and Maintenance Forums - for generation specific discussions > MKIII Supra

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-17-2007, 02:46 AM   #1
91 Supra
Stock
 
91 Supra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Goleta
Posts: 24
91 Supra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cre
Are you planning on upping the boost anytime soon? The stock HG gets a bad rap. The HG wasn't ever the main problem, nor are the OEM headbolts it was the torque specs.

I would recommend new bolts but the OEM bolts are quite beefy. If you want to go with ARP's for the additional security, go for it. The OEM HG is NOT good for more than stock boost levels, I would trust it to last up to about 10, but anything beyond that and you're begging for trouble. There are a few people who I know of that are running 10psi (and have been for a year or more) on an OEM HG torqued to ~72ft lbs.

Even with an oem HG you need to check the deck for pitting, check the deck with a machinists straight edge, have the head cut a little (the HG's rings usually leave impressions which need to be removed), and then lap both for a very good and smooth surface. You may be able to get away with less, but I wouldn't try it. At any rate at this point, if the deck is flat and you do lap the head and deck well, I would probably go with a cometic HG.
No, at this time I don't have plans in upping the boost, and I probably wont in the future actually. I want to stay as close to stock boost as I can. Either way you provided me with some great insight as to how I should approach the BHG issue. Just to be on the safe side I'll put on a good HG. I'll check out the cometic HG, stick on some arp bolts and studs, torque to about 75 ft lbs and definitely have the head cut a little like you suggested. Thanks a bunch Cre.
91 Supra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2007, 04:00 AM   #2
cre

Toyota
Racing
Development
 
cre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,038
cre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond reputecre has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You should still buy/borrow/rent a precision lapping plate and lap the head and deck with some good diamond paste. Make sure to keep the paste out of the oil and coolant passages and clean it all out of the cylinders.

And when I say you need to use a machinists straight edge to check that the block deck is within TSRM specs, I mean it. The tolerances need to be very tight to use any metal head gasket.
cre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2007, 04:22 PM   #3
91 Supra
Stock
 
91 Supra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Goleta
Posts: 24
91 Supra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cre
You should still buy/borrow/rent a precision lapping plate and lap the head and deck with some good diamond paste. Make sure to keep the paste out of the oil and coolant passages and clean it all out of the cylinders.

And when I say you need to use a machinists straight edge to check that the block deck is within TSRM specs, I mean it. The tolerances need to be very tight to use any metal head gasket.
Will do, again thanks a bunch Cre
91 Supra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2007, 08:45 PM   #4
IHateHacks
20psi boost
 
IHateHacks's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Haven/Hamden
Posts: 793
IHateHacks is on a distinguished road
Default

Even on an engine that never blew a head gasket, the factory head gasket will leave "bite" marks in the deck of the block, you must remove those if you want to go metal, and shaving the head and using ARP hardware are a must. I removed most of my bite marks but I wimped out and used a stock gasket.
IHateHacks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 03:42 AM   #5
91 Supra
Stock
 
91 Supra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Goleta
Posts: 24
91 Supra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IHateHacks
Even on an engine that never blew a head gasket, the factory head gasket will leave "bite" marks in the deck of the block, you must remove those if you want to go metal, and shaving the head and using ARP hardware are a must. I removed most of my bite marks but I wimped out and used a stock gasket.
Very true. Im not quite sure what compelled me to think that the deck of my block would be in good enough condition such that I would only need to mount on a new HG and be done with it, I guess I have much to learn about engine wear and tear. Anyways, I'll definitely keep both yours and cre's information/advice in mind as I begin to tackle on this whole BHG deal. Thanks again
91 Supra is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
purcashing 1987 toyota supra soon, YAY! HG questions inside. SideWinderGX MKIII Supra 21 02-07-2007 02:55 AM
how often headgaskets jfunez MKIII Supra 9 06-16-2006 07:16 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

1986



1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87