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Bone_Stock_Supra 11-17-2007 05:49 PM

Weird noise from MK IV 5-speed tranny!! Help!
 
Ever since I got my 1993 NA 5-speed, it has this bearing noise from the tranny. I thought it was the throwout bearing so I replace the flywheel, entire clutch, alignment bearing, and throwout bearing. I also replace the trans oil with OEM 75W-90 oil from Toyota. It was $50.00 bucks a quart!!! Anyway, the noise is still there and it seems to be louder. It only happens when the clutch pedal is all the way out. It doesn't matter if the car is in/out of gear. It does go away if you press the clutch pedal to the floor, but only then. It sounds just like a throwout bearing but it isn't. Has anyone experienced this sound and any ideas for a fix??!! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

pwpanas 11-21-2007 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bone_Stock_Supra
Ever since I got my 1993 NA 5-speed, it has this bearing noise from the tranny. I thought it was the throwout bearing so I replace the flywheel, entire clutch, alignment bearing, and throwout bearing. I also replace the trans oil with OEM 75W-90 oil from Toyota. It was $50.00 bucks a quart!!! Anyway, the noise is still there and it seems to be louder. It only happens when the clutch pedal is all the way out. It doesn't matter if the car is in/out of gear. It does go away if you press the clutch pedal to the floor, but only then. It sounds just like a throwout bearing but it isn't. Has anyone experienced this sound and any ideas for a fix??!! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

When you did your clutch job, did you also replace the pilot bearing?

pwpanas 11-21-2007 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bone_Stock_Supra
Ever since I got my 1993 NA 5-speed, it has this bearing noise from the tranny. I thought it was the throwout bearing so I replace the flywheel, entire clutch, alignment bearing, and throwout bearing. I also replace the trans oil with OEM 75W-90 oil from Toyota. It was $50.00 bucks a quart!!! Anyway, the noise is still there and it seems to be louder. It only happens when the clutch pedal is all the way out. It doesn't matter if the car is in/out of gear. It does go away if you press the clutch pedal to the floor, but only then. It sounds just like a throwout bearing but it isn't. Has anyone experienced this sound and any ideas for a fix??!! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Perhaps it's the input shaft bearing in the transmission?

Also, did you replace the snap rings when you did the work, as per the TSRM?

dcrusupra 11-21-2007 04:21 AM

If you decide you don't want to fix it, i'll take it off your hands, lol. I'm only about 20 mins from you.

Bone_Stock_Supra 11-21-2007 06:26 PM

Bearing noise
 
No, I did not replace the input shaft bearing and clips when I did the clutch/flywheel job. I did replace the alignment bearing, throwout bearing, and the entire clutch and flywheel with new torque bolts for the flywheel. Is the input shaft bearing known to go bad?? LOL, if you want to pay over 20K for it, it's yours!! :)

pwpanas 11-21-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bone_Stock_Supra
No, I did not replace the input shaft bearing and clips when I did the clutch/flywheel job. I did replace the alignment bearing, throwout bearing, and the entire clutch and flywheel with new torque bolts for the flywheel. Is the input shaft bearing known to go bad??

My Mkiv is a TT, so I have no idea about your 5spd. On the 6spd, the input shaft bearing generally doesn't go bad but I do know of one case where it did need to be replaced.

Snap rings are consumables - never reuse them. (see the TSRM for details)

Bone_Stock_Supra 11-21-2007 07:24 PM

Snap Ring
 
Where exactly does the snap ring go? I don't remember seeing one. Please advise!!

pwpanas 11-22-2007 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bone_Stock_Supra
Where exactly does the snap ring go? I don't remember seeing one. Please advise!!

There are two of them. One connects the throwout bearing assembly onto the clutch, and the other fastens the throwout bearing to the throwout bearing hub.

Bone_Stock_Supra 01-14-2008 06:24 PM

Trans rebuild
 
Ended up taking out the tranny and swapping the guts from another unit. I think the bearing sound was either from the input shaft bearing or one of the shaft (carrier) bearings. Anyway, if you ever get a bearing noise that can only be heard when the pedal is all the way out, its an internal bearing and you need to go through the unit and replace them. No more bearing noise but I do have a quick question...

Does your trany feel a little hard to shift when the car is cold. My trans is a little "notchy" when I first get going but after 5 minutes it shifts like butter. Let me know! :)

pwpanas 01-16-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bone_Stock_Supra (Post 54257)
Ended up taking out the tranny and swapping the guts from another unit. I think the bearing sound was either from the input shaft bearing or one of the shaft (carrier) bearings. Anyway, if you ever get a bearing noise that can only be heard when the pedal is all the way out, its an internal bearing and you need to go through the unit and replace them. No more bearing noise but I do have a quick question...

Does your trany feel a little hard to shift when the car is cold. My trans is a little "notchy" when I first get going but after 5 minutes it shifts like butter. Let me know! :)

Thank you for the follow-up post, and congrats on getting rid of the noise! :)

Not sure if experience with my 6spd would be relevant, but shifting is just fine both cold and after it gets warm...


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