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mrbean 05-07-2009 07:19 PM

Engine dies while driving
 
1995 na standard, all stock, has died twice (a month or so apart) at 10-20mph. seems like it has happened right after shifting (into neutral). all warning lights come up, steering locks. i have been able to restart on 1st try and everything works as normal. anyone had this happen before? would like to troubleshoot b/c it's obviously dangerous if your car just dies. any thoughts before i take it in would be greatly appreciated.

dunewarz 05-07-2009 09:29 PM

I don't have, own, or know much about the model car but it might be the idle speed control value not opening. Probably due to it being dirty or faulty.

Not even sure if it has a iscv but something similar.

pwpanas 05-09-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunewarz (Post 69520)
I don't have, own, or know much about the model car but it might be the idle speed control value not opening. Probably due to it being dirty or faulty.

Not even sure if it has a iscv but something similar.

I know the TT has an iacv, but not sure about the n/a.

suprabahamut 05-10-2009 11:43 PM

I have never myself had a car where something like this happens, but a friend of mine has. Check your alternator, change your fuel filter it could be clogged if you have not already, it could be a fuel pump starting to go. or bad plugs or wires. My friends car was a automatic Mazda 626 and it was her alternator but it might be different with your car. Some body like Mr. Nickeleye might be able to help you he is a supra specialist and I think a Toyota certified mechanic he is the man with these cars. When you do find the problem, post it I would like to find out what it was.

mrbean 05-11-2009 12:41 PM

thanks for responses. i'll let you know what comes of it.....

Curtis 05-11-2009 07:25 PM

I hope it's not your oil pressure, it could be dying if you have no oil pressure.

Hopefully its not the problem or your looking at some problems.

therippr 05-12-2009 10:46 PM

your cheapest easiest bet is the fuel filter, i have had many cars die while driving and changing the fuel filter was the fix. good luck.

chris

mrbean 07-11-2009 12:33 AM

it's actually a code 42. hmm...don't know what to do...

pwpanas 07-13-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbean (Post 71168)
it's actually a code 42. hmm...don't know what to do...

Code 42 says:
"No. 1 Vehicle Speed Sensor Signal (for A/T) No. 1 Vehicle Speed Sensor Signal (for M/T)"
Looks like it's your speed sensor...or possibly a cracked solder joint in your odometer assembly (in the dash).

mrbean 07-17-2009 08:24 PM

ya i was thinking about doing the odo splice and seeing what happens. i can't think of anything else....

top-tuner 08-20-2009 04:34 AM

top-tuner
 
Hi Guys,
Greetings to all......:crazy2:

Does anyone knows the coolant and intake air temp
values in volts for cold and hot ?????:crazy2:
My engine is a 2JZGTE twin turbo 3 liter ...

Grt......:rant2:

pwpanas 08-20-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by top-tuner (Post 72231)
Hi Guys,
Greetings to all......:crazy2:

Does anyone knows the coolant and intake air temp
values in volts for cold and hot ?????:crazy2:
My engine is a 2JZGTE twin turbo 3 liter ...

Grt......:rant2:

Not sure offhand, but I'm sure the TSRM (Toyota Supra Repair Manual) has this info. I'd strongly recommend you get a copy before you try to work on your Supra...

top-tuner 08-21-2009 08:14 AM

top-tuner
 
Thanks for this advise i will purchase one at the
dealer in Japan sinds my vehicle is a righthand drive
Supra 6 speed....:rofl:


Grt.....

pwpanas 08-21-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by top-tuner (Post 72274)
Thanks for this advise i will purchase one at the
dealer in Japan sinds my vehicle is a righthand drive
Supra 6 speed....:rofl:


Grt.....

The UK version should be applicable to almost everything on your Supra. It'd be in English, and RHD. However, even the US version has the correct voltages for the intake air temp and coolant temp sensors (they're the same in both the US-spec and the Japanese-spec Mkiv's)...

top-tuner 08-22-2009 06:13 AM

top-tuner
 
I will try to purchased a US specs version.
When i checked the input coolant voltage when
engine is cold it reads 1.85 volts !!!!
The output of the ECU is at 5 volts when the connector
is disconnected so there is a faulty signal for
the ECU to go in rich condition !!!

Thanks....:nuts:

bigdame67 01-08-2013 03:11 AM

simILAR PROBLEM
 
My car (1994 n/a 5 speed manual) is doing some weird thing. It will shut off and stall out from time to time and toyota doesn't really know. They believes it maybe a short in the dashh harness, engine harness or ecu problem. The way they explained it, when you turn the key on without cranking it. If the check engine light goes off before starting, the car won't start. But if the light stays on before you crank it, it will crank. Some days it will drive fine, then some days i will drive good for 5-15 mins, then dies. When it dies, it hard to start it up again. When it dies, it may start back up in 5 mins or sometimes 30 mins. The car would never do this with my mechanic but he have gotten the following codes: Tps, distributor. Toyota dealership got codes: Egr and tps, and they replaced the check engine light control board (malfunction indicator lamp assembly). They are wanting to check the dash harness, then engine harness, but no guarantee if that's the problem. Wanting to charge me over $3000 on guessing..... I don't know what to do. And if it is a harness problem, good luck finding harnesses as they don't make them anymore...any ideas. The inginator and fuel pump checked out. I had it tuned up the first time this problem occured but that didn't fix the problem.

pwpanas 01-08-2013 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdame67 (Post 104942)
My car (1994 n/a 5 speed manual) is doing some weird thing. It will shut off and stall out from time to time and toyota doesn't really know. They believes it maybe a short in the dashh harness, engine harness or ecu problem. The way they explained it, when you turn the key on without cranking it. If the check engine light goes off before starting, the car won't start. But if the light stays on before you crank it, it will crank. Some days it will drive fine, then some days i will drive good for 5-15 mins, then dies. When it dies, it hard to start it up again. When it dies, it may start back up in 5 mins or sometimes 30 mins. The car would never do this with my mechanic but he have gotten the following codes: Tps, distributor. Toyota dealership got codes: Egr and tps, and they replaced the check engine light control board (malfunction indicator lamp assembly). They are wanting to check the dash harness, then engine harness, but no guarantee if that's the problem. Wanting to charge me over $3000 on guessing..... I don't know what to do. And if it is a harness problem, good luck finding harnesses as they don't make them anymore...any ideas. The inginator and fuel pump checked out. I had it tuned up the first time this problem occured but that didn't fix the problem.

If the code says TPS, I'd start by swapping out the TPS. Be careful though - it needs to be adjusted perfectly in order for everything to run right. The screws holding the TPS in use Loctite for a reason.

Best case you can find a used TPS from another Supra that you can use as a test. Also, check the harness with a multimeter.

I had a problem with my TPS once because some moisture got into it.

All these troubleshooting steps are in the TSRM - you need to get one because the Mkiv Supra is too rare for your local dealership to keep one on the shelf.

bigdame67 01-09-2013 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwpanas (Post 104943)
If the code says TPS, I'd start by swapping out the TPS. Be careful though - it needs to be adjusted perfectly in order for everything to run right. The screws holding the TPS in use Loctite for a reason.

Best case you can find a used TPS from another Supra that you can use as a test. Also, check the harness with a multimeter.

I had a problem with my TPS once because some moisture got into it.

All these troubleshooting steps are in the TSRM - you need to get one because the Mkiv Supra is too rare for your local dealership to keep one on the shelf.

Thank you for your feedback

bigdame67 04-07-2013 06:22 PM

Replaced ECM
 
After purchasing the TSRM (great investment); it ended up being my ECM. You can purchase a TSRM brand new from toyota (www.helminc.com or 1-800-782-4356) for $260, but I found a set of used; like new on ebay for $150.

pwpanas 04-13-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdame67 (Post 105437)
After purchasing the TSRM (great investment); it ended up being my ECM. You can purchase a TSRM brand new from toyota (www.helminc.com or 1-800-782-4356) for $260, but I found a set of used; like new on ebay for $150.

Thanks for keeping us up to date! Congratulations on successfully troubleshooting your issue, and for your purchase of the TSRM(s).


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