2jz engine Rebuild questions.

[RARZ]

Okay so I deliver auto parts, so I see a lot of rotting away beauties. Today I was in a shop pilled with engines and i noticed a straight six, Then I saw 2jz stamped on the block. The only thing is it seems to be just the block, head, and internals. No intake or exhaust manifolds. No electronics. and I am not sure what else is it missing.

I am not a mechanic but I know my way around a car. I am thinking about offering this guy a few bucks for the engine to rebuild it. But I am not sure if it would be worth it.

So if any one has a range of how much this rebuild would cost let me know.
and parts that I may not be noticing that are a big deal.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by RARZ

Okay so I deliver auto parts, so I see a lot of rotting away beauties. Today I was in a shop pilled with engines and i noticed a straight six, Then I saw 2jz stamped on the block. The only thing is it seems to be just the block, head, and internals. No intake or exhaust manifolds. No electronics. and I am not sure what else is it missing.

I am not a mechanic but I know my way around a car. I am thinking about offering this guy a few bucks for the engine to rebuild it. But I am not sure if it would be worth it.

So if any one has a range of how much this rebuild would cost let me know.
and parts that I may not be noticing that are a big deal.

1) Is it an n/a or a TT (i.e. 2jz-gTe?).
2) It'd probably be worth rebuilding a 2jz-gTe, but don't plan on doing it in your basement...not if you want it to be right. Not to sound elitist or anything but this is a reliably 1000hp-capable engine - bone stock. To get that from a 3L engine takes a lot of engine-building talent. For example, bearing tolerances must be within the tens of thousandths or hundreds of thousandths of an of an inch (not the typical hundredths or thousandths of an inch used for (eg.) a small block chevy). To get this accurate, you can't do the build with plastigauge. You need the special machines available in a high end machine shop that can precisely measure for clearance and perfect roundness. For example, many 2jz-gte engine builders will have a large selection of brand-new bearings in each size and will continue swapping bearings of the same size until the clearance is perfect. This precision does yield results: On the upside, you end up with a 3L engine that will take 40lbs of boost and produce 1000+hp. On the downside...unfortunately...it's just not a backyard 'shadytree mechanic' type of project. To sum up, and directly answer your question, if you're not paying at least $1500 for the rebuild at a top-notch machine shop that has experience building the 2jz-gte, you're probably not going to get the result you'd expect.
Regardless of what you choose to do, good luck with your endeavors.

[97SupraTT]

I dont have a lot of experience re-building yet. In my opinion, it depends on what kind of deal you can make with this guy. If it is a GTE and the internals are ok, then even if you build it slowly day-by-day, then it would still bring you profit whether you keep if for pleasure or re-sale it. Good luck!

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by 97SupraTT

I dont have a lot of experience re-building yet. In my opinion, it depends on what kind of deal you can make with this guy. If it is a GTE and the internals are ok, then even if you build it slowly day-by-day, then it would still bring you profit whether you keep if for pleasure or re-sale it. Good luck!

Rebuilding a 2jz-gte is not only a matter of time and patience...it's also a matter of having the right equipment. Many of the machines required to test for the tolerances required (eg. roundness, honing profiles, bore alignment, valve seat shape and depth, etc.) cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, and are only found at high-end machine shops.

[97SupraTT]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Rebuilding a 2jz-gte is not only a matter of time and patience...it's a matter of having the right equipment. Many of the machines required to test for the tolerances required (eg. roundness, honing profiles, bore alignment, valve seat shape and depth, etc.) cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, and are only found at high-end machine shops.

True! It would probably do him so me good to find some good shops around his area that can help him out.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by 97SupraTT

True! It would probably do him so me good to find some good shops around his area that can help him out.

Isn't that what I already said?

[97SupraTT]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Isn't that what I already said?

Wow, i apologize. I wasn't saying anything to offend you; i was just trying assist the individual asking the question. I guess i missed where became between you an I.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by 97SupraTT

Wow, i apologize. I wasn't saying anything to offend you; i was just trying assist the individual asking the question. I guess i missed where became between you an I.

It's more of a case of wasted bandwidth (WOB). That's one of the things I watch out for as a moderator. *shrug*

No need to apologize ... what I'd suggest is that if you can't add to the information that's already been posted, it's probably best that you don't post at all. Of course, if you can add new, relevant information please do post!