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Old 05-08-2012, 02:43 AM   #21
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I think then what I will probley do is to just buy the fuel system from sound performance just so then I know I am getting everything I need and everything will match up and work in unison without having to second guess. Is the fuel kit from sound performance include everything that I will need?

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Old 05-08-2012, 02:58 AM   #22
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I think then what I will probley do is to just buy the fuel system from sound performance just so then I know I am getting everything I need and everything will match up and work in unison without having to second guess. Is the fuel kit from sound performance include everything that I will need?
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Sorry thought you had the full AEM standalone. That AEM fuel controller will work fine for 650rwhp (6spd).
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:00 AM   #23
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Ok sweet so I will purchase the fuel system tomorrow and will I need anything else? Like will I need to get camshafts or some kind of new electronic or anything? Yeah I wish I had the full standalone that would be great haha.

Also with the fuel system should I just select getting the 880cc injectors since they are no additional cost?
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:33 PM   #24
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I ordered the 67mm turbo kit and I got a call saying that I will be getting the F1 manifold since the other is out of date.

I also purchased the sp fuel system with the 880cc injectors. Will I need to get camshafts like the 264 HKS cams? Also do you by chance know if the AEM FIC has a 2 step function?
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I ordered the 67mm turbo kit and I got a call saying that I will be getting the F1 manifold since the other is out of date.

I also purchased the sp fuel system with the 880cc injectors. Will I need to get camshafts like the 264 HKS cams? Also do you by chance know if the AEM FIC has a 2 step function?
The oem cams will allow you to put out 650rwhp...just barely. You'll probably have an easier time of it with 264s.

Apologies - I don't have experience with the AEM FIC. Hopefully another forum member has?
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Ok I will purchase the HKS 264 camshafts then just so I don't have to worry. Also, will the 880cc injectors be fine for 650rwhp? Or should I order the 1000cc injectors?
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Ok I will purchase the HKS 264 camshafts then just so I don't have to worry. Also, will the 880cc injectors be fine for 650rwhp? Or should I order the 1000cc injectors?
880s are more than large enough.
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Ok thanks! I'm gonna run 20lbs on the stock twins for now until I can get the meth kit installed, how much race fuel should I add into the tank to run that much? I have 118 torco race fuel
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Ok thanks! I'm gonna run 20lbs on the stock twins for now until I can get the meth kit installed, how much race fuel should I add into the tank to run that much? I have 118 torco race fuel
GREAT QUESTION! I absolutely LOVE help doing this kind of thing to keep my brothers' Supra engines safe.

I'll assume you're running Torco Orange, per this chart:
http://torcoracefuel.net/2-docs/torco-specs.jpg

Let's figure it out this way, just for fun:
  • 93 Octane pump gas is about 88 MON*, per the link below.
  • Your 118 Torco is a true 118 MON (assuming the fuel is fresh).
  • You can run 15psi of boost safely on the stock twins with 93 octane (88 MON) fuel.
  • With pure 118 Torco, you'd be able to run at least 32psi, assuming you could get the oem twins to push that much boost. (You could run even more boost at that MON level, with a bigger turbo that's more efficient at high boost levels).
With those four data points, here's your scale:
Boost Octane
15..........88.0
16..........89.8
17..........91.5
18..........93.3
19..........95.1
20.........96.8
21..........98.6
22..........100.4
23..........102.1
24..........103.9
25..........105.6
26..........107.4
27..........109.2
28..........110.9
29..........112.7
30..........114.5
31..........116.2
32..........118.0
Now, assuming you fill the *entire* 17 gallon fuel tank up, and you want a 96.8 target octane, I calculate 12 gallons of "93" and 5 gallons of 118. I'll leave it up to anyone in the forum to double-check my math.

So pull up to the pump with the needle below "E", and put exactly 12 gallons in. Then dump in a 5-gallon gas can of fresh Torco 118, and run 20lbs of boost all day long, with every confidence that youre engine will be perfectly safe. Maybe take a few fairly hard corners before boosting, just to slosh the fuels around in the fuel tank to get them mixed really well. Note that the longer you run your car with that tank of fuel (even at idle), the more it will get mixed by the fuel system's recirculation.

* Search for: "Premium" or "Super unleaded" gasoline in US (10% ethanol blend)"
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:37 PM   #30
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Wow thats an insane amount of great information! Thanks a ton! Maybe I will run a full tank of race gas a see how it feels Also, if you do run race gas even if its only 5 gallons, do you need to get your car tuned for it? Or can you just dump it in and drive?
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