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Where are you getting this *bad* information? Please let me know so that I can set him/her straight too. Let me set you straight: There is no 3L 2jz-gte Supra on earth pushing 1000hp with only 93 (R+M)/2 octane fuel. Period. Without water/meth injection, 1000hp on pump gas using a 3L 2jz-gte is completely impracticable. With an unlimited budget and no care for power:weight ratio, sure it's theoretically possible...for example, you could try rig up a system that cools the charge-air with liquid nitrogen. If you got the intake air cold enough (I'd guess the air would need to be maintained at about -150 degrees F during full boost), you *might* avoid detonation with 1000hp and pump gas using a 3L 2jz-GTE. Oh, don't forget that at -150 degrees F, the air (and therefore intake O2) would be MUCH more dense, so the air-fuel mix would need to be tuned appropriately to compensate. Mmeyer183, if you're not on an unlimited budget, and/or you don't want to waste months experimenting and replacing expensive engine parts, make it easy on yourself and simply ignore Sonyps307's post.
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Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+ Displacement is no replacement for boost. Life begins at 30psi. NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners. Last edited by pwpanas; 02-28-2013 at 11:36 AM. |
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02-22-2013, 01:23 PM
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. 1) Destroy the engine - not immediately, but every time you boost to 510rwhp, it detonates, which takes chunks of tiny metal out of the pistons and head. What do you think happens to these tiny chunks? They ruin the cylinder bores, valve seats, and the turbo's turbine blades. Of course, it depends how often you take it up to 510rwhp, and how long you hold it there when you do, but regardless you're looking at a new/rebuilt 2jz-gte going this route (probably sooner and not later, relatively speaking). . 2) Run a turbo so big that the lag makes the Supra practically undriveable. Huge turbos (80+mm inducer) generate very low levels of additional heat at low boost levels. They also lag like crazy... eg. with no boost whatsoever under 5500 rpm. Sure you can hit 510rwhp with a setup like this on pump gas, but who one earth would ever want to drive it? Sure, the huge turbo could be spooled with nitrous, but if you're going to that trouble, why not just put a meth injection system in, together with a more reasonably-sized turbo?
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Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+ Displacement is no replacement for boost. Life begins at 30psi. NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners. Last edited by pwpanas; 02-23-2013 at 01:15 AM. |
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02-22-2013, 01:24 PM
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Mmeyer183, ask Sonyps307 if he'll pay for your engine if you try that setup and it doesn't work out for the best. My guess is Sonyps307 runs for the hills...because he 1) has no idea what he's talking about, and therefore 2) won't stand behind his advice.
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Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+ Displacement is no replacement for boost. Life begins at 30psi. NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners. Last edited by pwpanas; 02-22-2013 at 01:38 PM. |
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Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+ Displacement is no replacement for boost. Life begins at 30psi. NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners. Last edited by pwpanas; 02-22-2013 at 04:16 PM. |
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02-22-2013, 06:52 PM
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All I said was there is supra running 1000hp+ on pump gas and u can get 600hp with a bigger turbo and more fuel. Of course he will need things like cams, head work, meth injection, bigger fuel injectors, bigger turbo, ecu, etc. what I was getting at was that the 2jz stock can take 1000hp can it not?
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. Last but not least, Mmeyers183 - apologies for the digression. Please refer to my previous on-topic response, and let us know if you have any follow-up questions.
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Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+ Displacement is no replacement for boost. Life begins at 30psi. NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners. Last edited by pwpanas; 05-11-2013 at 08:28 PM. |
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