Home / Toyota Supra Forums

Go Back   Toyota Supra Forums! Join the Supra forum! > Performance, Modification, and Maintenance Forums - for generation specific discussions > MKIV Supra

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2006, 08:24 AM   #1
Isphius
500whp yet?
 
Isphius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Long branch, NJ
Posts: 1,006
Isphius is on a distinguished road
Default IS300 vs MK4

I was thinking about getting a mk4 supra turbo, but i can only spend about 20k total on the car, and I cant find a mk4 turbo for that much. But i know the is300 has the 2j motor, And i can probably afford one of those. Now my question is, What is the difference between the is300 and supra, as far as engines go. And will the turbo parts from the supra bolt onto the lexus? It looks like the lexus has the older style manifold that goes out the side of the motor instead of the front, But does that matter? also let me know if there was a thread on this already, But i couldnt seem to find any.
__________________
Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!
Isphius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 02:04 PM   #2
jdub24
Stock
 
jdub24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 2
jdub24 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isphius
I was thinking about getting a mk4 supra turbo, but i can only spend about 20k total on the car, and I cant find a mk4 turbo for that much. But i know the is300 has the 2j motor, And i can probably afford one of those. Now my question is, What is the difference between the is300 and supra, as far as engines go. And will the turbo parts from the supra bolt onto the lexus? It looks like the lexus has the older style manifold that goes out the side of the motor instead of the front, But does that matter? also let me know if there was a thread on this already, But i couldnt seem to find any.
I used to drive an IS300, and I desperately wanted to boost it after riding in a monster turbo IS from Toyomoto. However, the AWD bug hit me, and I bought an Evo instead of a turbo kit for an IS. The entry kits start around $6-7,000. I've seen them go up to $30,000. Since the block is the same as the Supra, with the right mods installed properly, the IS300 can be turned into a real boosted terror. It will cost you though....

The block in the IS300, as with the old SC300 and old GS300, is the 2JZGE. It is the same block, but not the same engine. Meaning, the IS motor wasn't built from the factory to handle boost, there are a lot of turbo components on the 2JZGTE that are absent from the 2JZGE. That being said, turbo components from the Supra will not bolt directly on the IS300. The ECU has to be controlled/tuned/even bypassed in an IS300 to make it into a turbo car. Here are a few of the manufacturers of quality IS300 turbo kits listed in order that I would purchase from:

1.) Toyomoto, Inc. - Miami, FL - http://www.toyomoto.com/
I rode in a 550 whp turbo IS300 from Toyomoto, and that thing was scary fast!

2.) Peter Farrell Supercars - Maryland - http://www.pfsupercars.com/

3.) Powerhouse Racing - Texas ?? - http://www.powerhouseracing.com/files/index.php

4.) Swift Racing Technologies - Maryland - http://www.swiftracing.com/
__________________
R.I.P. Evo VIII
Hello MKIV

Last edited by jdub24; 04-25-2006 at 02:07 PM.
jdub24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2006, 04:59 PM   #3
Troyota
3" Exhaust
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 73
Troyota is on a distinguished road
Default

Powerhouse Racing is in New Mexico.
__________________
1987 N/A MA70 Supra <--1JZ swap in progress
1986 AE86 GT-S Hatchback
2002 DC5 RSX Type S
Troyota is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2006, 12:44 PM   #4
pwpanas
Supra Owner
 
pwpanas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: GA, USA
Posts: 2,209
pwpanas is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdub24
I used to drive an IS300, and I desperately wanted to boost it after riding in a monster turbo IS from Toyomoto. However, the AWD bug hit me, and I bought an Evo instead of a turbo kit for an IS. The entry kits start around $6-7,000. I've seen them go up to $30,000. Since the block is the same as the Supra, with the right mods installed properly, the IS300 can be turned into a real boosted terror. It will cost you though....

The block in the IS300, as with the old SC300 and old GS300, is the 2JZGE. It is the same block, but not the same engine. Meaning, the IS motor wasn't built from the factory to handle boost, there are a lot of turbo components on the 2JZGTE that are absent from the 2JZGE. That being said, turbo components from the Supra will not bolt directly on the IS300. The ECU has to be controlled/tuned/even bypassed in an IS300 to make it into a turbo car. Here are a few of the manufacturers of quality IS300 turbo kits listed in order that I would purchase from:

1.) Toyomoto, Inc. - Miami, FL - http://www.toyomoto.com/
I rode in a 550 whp turbo IS300 from Toyomoto, and that thing was scary fast!

2.) Peter Farrell Supercars - Maryland - http://www.pfsupercars.com/

3.) Powerhouse Racing - Texas ?? - http://www.powerhouseracing.com/files/index.php

4.) Swift Racing Technologies - Maryland - http://www.swiftracing.com/
Good post jdub24! I'd add that the n/a (normally aspirated) head is completely different, which is why the 2jz-ge engine doesn't handle boost as well. On the bottom end, the only things that are different are the oil squirters and the compression of the pistons.
__________________
Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+
Displacement is no replacement for boost.
Life begins at 30psi.


NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners.
pwpanas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2006, 03:49 PM   #5
supramanocnsd
3" Exhaust
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Diego Cali
Posts: 129
supramanocnsd is on a distinguished road
Default

well this is a good post too.. your talking about the diference in the 2JZ-GE aqnd 2JZ-GTE .... the block is the same in the N/A Supra as the IS300.. but the tune and comp are different..it does not perform in the same way..



Quote:
Originally Posted by pwpanas
Good post jdub24! I'd add that the n/a (normally aspirated) head is completely different, which is why the 2jz-ge engine doesn't handle boost as well. On the bottom end, the only things that are different are the oil squirters and the compression of the pistons.
supramanocnsd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2006, 04:16 PM   #6
Isphius
500whp yet?
 
Isphius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Long branch, NJ
Posts: 1,006
Isphius is on a distinguished road
Default

Well my original plan was to not spend a lot, because i cant afford a mk4 supra, But i guess ill keep saving I would love to have a turbo is300 tho.... Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of either an older porsche 911, a 98-01 trans am, or a mk4. Im just gona keep shopping around till i find a good deal on one
__________________
Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!
Isphius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2006, 05:17 PM   #7
pwpanas
Supra Owner
 
pwpanas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: GA, USA
Posts: 2,209
pwpanas is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by supramanocnsd
well this is a good post too.. your talking about the diference in the 2JZ-GE aqnd 2JZ-GTE .... the block is the same in the N/A Supra as the IS300.. but the tune and comp are different..it does not perform in the same way..
Unfortunately the block isn't exactly the same. One difference is the 'oil squirters' that don't exist in the 2jz-ge. Again, the cylinder head is completely different too.
__________________
Phil '94 Supra Turbo, 6spd, 'APU'+
Displacement is no replacement for boost.
Life begins at 30psi.


NB: Please consider posting any help requests in a new thread instead of asking me for help privately. About 99.9+% of the time, private help requests end up covering great information that could be very valuable to other forum members. If you have a good reason for needing the help request to be private, I'll consider it. If not, then why not give everyone else the opportunity to pitch in too, and/or learn from the information? Remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question. We're all here to help within this family of Supra owners.
pwpanas is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Supra R154 5 Speed Transmission In An Is300 print MKIII Supra 1 12-19-2005 08:51 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

1986



1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87