1st gear jumping out, 4th gear crunching, how do I fix it without changing gearbox

wcrispino · 01-18-2010, 12:56 AM

I have a 93 supra non turbo with a 5 speed manual. The problem is in 1st gear I have to hold it in because it always jumps out if I don't and also when I am driving and put it into 4th gear it crunches and sometimes jumps out too!!
How do I fix this without changing the gearbox

cre · 01-19-2010, 03:12 PM

Posted in the wrong section. I'll move this to the general discussion group as the W58 was used in more than just the one model.

I don't think you are going to be able to fix this without rebuilding or replacing the gearbox.

gteduck · 01-25-2010, 05:27 PM

much easier to replace! probably cheaper to. if you have pieces of gears or rubbish floating around in there it could have damaged more than you think ! W58's come in two differant shifter positions, it's an easy swap if you can't get the right one ,just use the bit's off the old one.

wcrispino · 01-25-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gteduck

much easier to replace! probably cheaper to. if you have pieces of gears or rubbish floating around in there it could have damaged more than you think ! W58's come in two differant shifter positions, it's an easy swap if you can't get the right one ,just use the bit's off the old one.

What do you mean that it comes in 2 shifter points. I have never actually replaced a gear box. If I don't have the tools is it cheaper to have a workshop do it for me. How much roughly would it cost? Would it be cheaper if I source my own gearbox?

gteduck · 01-26-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wcrispino

What do you mean that it comes in 2 shifter points. I have never actually replaced a gear box. If I don't have the tools is it cheaper to have a workshop do it for me. How much roughly would it cost? Would it be cheaper if I source my own gearbox?

where the shifter enters the gearbox there is a alloy plate roughly 6 inch's long ( 150mm ) mine is located at the rear of this plate ( mark2 ) the other version , somtimes called 'short shifter' is located in the middle of the plate. I'm not sure what yours is ! 93 mark4 is it?
i got a really freash box for 675 bucks, i did look around but there not as cheap as a few years ago. i had to move the shifter back, but it was no real trouble. i just noticed you in oz, what state ? i'm in victoria, maybe i can help? all you need is 14mm open end or ring spanner (if memory serves me correctly ),rtv sealant and a little shifter or 10,12 mm spanner. sockets are best for the job if you have them? ring around and get a quote on price for box !

gteduck · 01-27-2010, 06:14 PM

go to ( celicasupra.com ) and do a search , type in ( W58 shift lever housing ) there are some pictures of the different lengths , 4 in total ! I didn't know there was that many .

good luck.

wcrispino · 01-28-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gteduck

where the shifter enters the gearbox there is a alloy plate roughly 6 inch's long ( 150mm ) mine is located at the rear of this plate ( mark2 ) the other version , somtimes called 'short shifter' is located in the middle of the plate. I'm not sure what yours is ! 93 mark4 is it?
i got a really freash box for 675 bucks, i did look around but there not as cheap as a few years ago. i had to move the shifter back, but it was no real trouble. i just noticed you in oz, what state ? i'm in victoria, maybe i can help? all you need is 14mm open end or ring spanner (if memory serves me correctly ),rtv sealant and a little shifter or 10,12 mm spanner. sockets are best for the job if you have them? ring around and get a quote on price for box !

Im in sydney so I don't know how I can get the box from victoria. Do you think I can get it couriered? The box you have would it fit mine. Its a 93 so yeah i think its a mark 4. Thanks for the info.

gteduck · 01-31-2010, 11:13 AM

I think you misunderstood me , the box i got is in my car as a friend did me the courtesy of blowing the one i had in it ,it was 20 years old thou. That's why i looked around for one . Just ring a few transmission places and ask for a box . they generally have fairly new one's they import ,not old crappy ones . check out the picture i mentioned in earlier post ,it shows the different shifter positions.

01-18-2010, 12:56 AM	#1
wcrispino Stock Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 29	1st gear jumping out, 4th gear crunching, how do I fix it without changing gearbox I have a 93 supra non turbo with a 5 speed manual. The problem is in 1st gear I have to hold it in because it always jumps out if I don't and also when I am driving and put it into 4th gear it crunches and sometimes jumps out too!! How do I fix this without changing the gearbox

01-27-2010, 06:14 PM	#6
gteduck Intake Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: melbourne,australia Posts: 31	shifter lengths go to ( celicasupra.com ) and do a search , type in ( W58 shift lever housing ) there are some pictures of the different lengths , 4 in total ! I didn't know there was that many . good luck.

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01-19-2010, 03:12 PM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Posted in the wrong section. I'll move this to the general discussion group as the W58 was used in more than just the one model. I don't think you are going to be able to fix this without rebuilding or replacing the gearbox.

01-25-2010, 05:27 PM	#3
gteduck Intake Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: melbourne,australia Posts: 31	much easier to replace! probably cheaper to. if you have pieces of gears or rubbish floating around in there it could have damaged more than you think ! W58's come in two differant shifter positions, it's an easy swap if you can't get the right one ,just use the bit's off the old one.

01-31-2010, 11:13 AM	#8
gteduck Intake Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: melbourne,australia Posts: 31	I think you misunderstood me , the box i got is in my car as a friend did me the courtesy of blowing the one i had in it ,it was 20 years old thou. That's why i looked around for one . Just ring a few transmission places and ask for a box . they generally have fairly new one's they import ,not old crappy ones . check out the picture i mentioned in earlier post ,it shows the different shifter positions.