Roll Bar
 

anyone know where i can find a roll bar for my 98 twin turbo?
i dont' need one that' s fully up to safty spec, it's just for show usage.
i'm looking foe something that goes just behind the two front seats!
thanks

Custom
 

Your best bet would be to get a custom one made at your local muffler shop. If the shop offers custom exhaust...then you can get them to weld, and bend your tubes to spec. Just remember to know what look you are wanting, and also have the width, height...length...all that stuff.

Yeah, nothing like a crush bent 18awg "roll cage" doing more harm than good in an accident situation.

Try http://www.autopowerindustries.com/

since you are not looking for a rollbar for safety, im not dissing you

but PVC piping then jus paint it, it would make it so much easier for you

oh yeah, that's a wicked good idea.... if you're running water through the car.

seriously, that helped none. if i ever saw a PVC roll cage, I'd probably shit. right there next to the car.

dont even think about making that pvc pipe roll cage. ppl will find out and make fun of you.
you will especially notice where you connect the pipes. or the first time if falls apart. lol.


while your running water through the pvc it can be like an extra cooling system

dont take it the wrong way, since your not looking for a rollbar for what it actually does,

this way it'll cut your cost , since safety isnt your concern,
if you do a good job .anybody jus looking wont be able to tell the diffrence, since its jus for looks, not for touch right lol

all I can say is....OMGWTFBBQRICE!

Now now theWeezL
 

I honestly think that if he is just going for asthetics, than PVC WOULD work. It would look like some hick job, but would work. And when I said to go to a mufler shop....I don't mean krinkl bent...cut, and welded or mandril bent. It wouldn't cost much more than an exhaust system. I have seen it done, and my bro did one for a guy (My bro works at Minute Muffler). The rollbar looks great, however offers no structural stability in a roll over...infact it's dangerous, because the weld WOULD break, well more than likely...and then you have 1.5-2.5 foot steel bars flying around your car...oh yeah, they have sharp edges too......I would just go for an actual roll bar, or if you know someone that is DAMN good at welding....then mathimatically make one, make sure it is safe, and then there you go, you'll have one for the cost of material...and maybe beer.

Yeah. Beer...
I can't think of anything better to do while welding an integral portion of the chassis rigidity structure than get drunk in the process. That cage oughta turn out mint.

Muffler shop: wrong-o.

Your brother's buddy or whatever is a dumbass.
Anyone who makes a faux cage, or anything for that matter that imitates something found on a race car, is a ricer. Through and through.

This thread needs deletion.

Man, you need to relax and chill out. You're beginning to sound like IHateHacks!
I dont drink anymore but when I did I used to love to have a few beers and get out in the garage and mess with stuff...having a few beers doesnt make you drunk unless you're a really pussy lightweight drinker, and people like that shouldnt drink at all. :nuts:

I hope you know Im not some kid, and I will be first to agree that alot the threads on this particular forum are a bit funny and some of the advice is a bit "noobish" BUT Im really getting sick of the guys who know better coming in here, making fun of people, putting em down, and acting like they were never ever a noob themselves. Why dont we all try to help without acting so condescending. If they wanna get shredded for posting stupid stuff they can go post on SM...but lets let em have one peaceful forum where they can feel free to ask stupid question without the fear of getting jumped all over for being a noob. Can we try that please?

thank you weezl

the pvc idea was jsu a suggestions,

if you was calm enough to think about it, it would have workd for looks
if you dont like it,
at least now you got a proper format, of what kind of tubes you need
the exact bent, the exact lenght, and height for your rollbar,even where you plan to mount it...

you can work with the pvc piping to find your measurements, since its easier to cut easier to connect bends without guesswork, and its easier to cut, and much cheaper than when you make mistakes cutting when working with metal

did you think about that?

state your opinion and what outta be done not call peoples ideas crap. people are just suggesting things to other people, that doenst mean they will do it. n some ideas are better than others and have their pros and cons.


if we were all to shy to speak for ourselves b/c we are worried about our ideas getting called crap.... then we would be getting nowhere.

as far as rollbars or rollcages whatever pvc is and idea and metal /muffler pipe is also an idea if thats what you want...looks

since it's for looks not really going to be doing anything... why don't you leave that bit alone and spend the money on something you would really enjoy... maybe upgrade that exhaust, get a new intake, new intercooler... something you can really feel

just my opinion

and also this board is here so we can help the newbs... they should feel comfortable asking those awkward new questions and i like to think we're here out of the good of our supra hearts to help em out k :)

Relax? I may be a little brash, but it's for good purpose.
Is it wrong to agree with a guy who goes by the alias IHateHacks?

Wow. Yet another piece of information. Let me put on my shocked face.
I don't want to step on anyones toes here, but this is a bit too much.
How often have you seen someone get jumped on on SM? I think you mean SF.

I was stating my opinion, and it just so happened that what people were suggesting was crap.

Sorry, but I'm not about to sugar coat it. If it's a bad idea, it's a bad idea. Simply put.


As I said. A noob question is one thing, but the replies that are simply treading water are another thing. That's what the problem is.
Again, sorry if my responses are harsh, I don't know how else to convey my point.

I'm all for helping, seriously... But when we're actually having a full on discussion about a flimsy "roll cage" for looks and looks alone? Then PVC comes up, I can't stand it much anymore.

What is with everyone here??
 

Ok, why don't ppl just stop saying who is wrong, and what is bad, and all that stuff. Honestly, this is a help forum, just help. Opinions are all that we offer, its not to slam someone else, it just to put OUR opinion out there. If you don't like it, respectfully dissagree.

We don't need to bitch at eachother, because no one ever wins....NEVER. So why don't all of us out there just calm down, and start helping out.

In my defence
 

Ok,

Well, you said that getting a roll bar done in a muffler shop is "wrong-o", what the heck do you think they do in other places? They weld tubes together. Who says that can't be done in a different shop other than one that usually does a roll cage?

I am sorry, but the one that my brother designed is fine, it worked, well aparently. The guy that he designed it for rolled his vehicle, and guess what...it held up.

That is enough for me.

such a hothead,
but dont even bother, you know what they say about pple that like to argue online

winning an arguement online is like winning the special olympics
you won alright, but it doesnt change the fact that youre retarded

have we got it out of our systems yet?

back on topic now ya'll
good suggestions and no bitching ;)

I agree
 

Sorry guys.

i would just save up money and get a real role cage.

wow cool link '90Turbo...thats a very reasonable price for a bar. A least that way you know its safe and would actually be useful for something other than ....umm.....water flow?

dont you have to take the car apart to get the rollbar/cage in? thats what i heard.

cuz you dont weld a rollbar together inside the car.

Take the car apart? To an extent, I suppose.
You need to pull up the carpet, but the most of the interior stays in the car, as you need it to work around to know what fits.

Actually you DO weld inside the car. You have to. There's no other way around it.

You build the main hoop outside the car, after taking measurements and plenty of tack-fit-grind-fit-cursing-tack-fit-cut-tack, and the final weld, you can fit the main hoop. Then you measure for the rest of the bars, considering this guy is mainly looking for a 4-pt, it'll just be two arms that'll go through the hatch area and brace onto the floor, so you weld those rearward-facing arms inside the car, because if you were to build it outside the car, you wouldn't be able to fit it all in at once.
There's plenty of tricks and tips that people who've been building these can help with, you can position the main hoop just right so you can weld the pipes 360* around.

There's a bit of work involved, but you should have a bit of work done to the car by the time you think you need a cage, as far as I'm concerned.

weezl: Thanks. That link is in my first post, but I figured noone saw it. ;)