Supra or Bmw?

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by SupraMan1784

yea man...the 96 m3 did come with a i6 3.2L 240 hp motor....not 316, not sure where your getting that information, but im totally behind skilmatic on this one, show us where ur getting that info...and are you sure that m3 is not modded? skilmatic's math still is right...3.2 240 vs. a 2.8 220? the supra still has more hp/liter

Yeah I dont know what this guy is talkin about.

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Yeah I dont know what this guy is talkin about.

Meaning gregletta you are right on supraman

[Greglatta]

Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Dude are you kidding me? Where are you getting that number? The 96 M3 never came stock with 316hp. Seriously, look at any car fax report on either msn autos or do a car search like kelley blue book. All it came with was a 3.2l with 240hp. Ignorance is bliss aint it? The kbb value on it right now in good condition is 14-16grand and has a 5sp manual tranny that gets approximately 28mi/gal on the freeway. It has 236pds/tq @3800rpm with a 24valve DOHC head. The bore and stroke is 3.40x3.53 with a compression ration of 10:5.

Now do I need to school you again? Show me one link where it said that the BMW stock off the dealership lot came with 316hp. You show me this I will bow down to you. However, if you want I can show you at least a dozen links that back my info.

They down chip the m3s when shipped to us

[Greglatta]

But why are we arguing about hp/litre when my question was which is faster

[SupraMan1784]

they probably reflash the chip to make less power to comply to the smog laws in teh us...so are you talking about a us m3? or a euro m3? hp/liter shows the efficiency of the motor, the more power it makes per liter the more efficient teh motor is...makes sense right? but if in terms of being faster? http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html according to that website teh supra n/a has a 6.9sec 0-60 and a 15.2 1/4 mile and a 96 m3 has pretty much a 6.6-6.7s 0-60 and a 14.9-15.3 1/4 depending on which model you have...not sure what luxury is but ill assume its stick, so i guess its fair to say that the m3 is quicker, but you call also say that any n/a supra can hang with any m3, a stock mk4 turbo supra would roast a 96 m3 any day...just some additional information, oh and this also comes down to the driver and how good they are...a good driver would be able to achieve times like these...an inexperienced driver would not...

[Greglatta]

Yea I didnt want to sound like a jerk on the forum but yea the euro version makes 300+ in 1996 and they downchip to make it meet the pollution of or something like that, heres a link that i found that helped alot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by Greglatta

Yea I didnt want to sound like a jerk on the forum but yea the euro version makes 300+ in 1996 and they downchip to make it meet the pollution of or something like that, heres a link that i found that helped alot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

Ok well are you going to import that BMW here? Cause if you do your looking at aver 70grand to make it legal here in the US. Now a 93 tt supra costs around 20-25grand. Let me put 40grand into it to make the cost even and the supra is faster in every aspect shape and form hands down. You cant equivocate a 70,000dollar car to a 30,000 dollar one. Thats not fair. If you want to be fair you must equivocate cost/hp to hp/liter efficiency. Which the supra wins hands down. But go ahead and buy your 70,000 dollar car. I will meet you at the track. We will see who wins. And then after you hand over your pink slip I will be 70,000dollars richer even though I warned you. Im sorry but in my opinion comparing a bmw to a supra is just stupidity. Look at the cars that are making impressive numbers at the track. However, if you are that stuck on the e46 then its your loss.

Just a side note I raced a e46 on the freeway with my 96 saturn sc2 with about 200whp and just incinerated it all day. BMW's are just bad whack jobs. Now if you really want a nice german performance car go with porsche.

[kkiepvvessau]

this is a dump question to ask . i thought this is supra forum

[SupraMan1784]

ehh he was making a comparison with a supra so i guess it was legit.... but skil with teh saturn and the e46...the beemer is a lot heavier than a saturn... but i dont know...just making a bad assumption there i guess...havent driven either car...but yea unless ur gonna import the car here or get a euro flashed chip...theres no real reason to compare the euro m3...since u said it was stock for stock...then u wont have a euro chip....but imma stick to my previous post

[Greglatta]

Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Ok well are you going to import that BMW here? Cause if you do your looking at aver 70grand to make it legal here in the US. Now a 93 tt supra costs around 20-25grand. Let me put 40grand into it to make the cost even and the supra is faster in every aspect shape and form hands down. You cant equivocate a 70,000dollar car to a 30,000 dollar one. Thats not fair. If you want to be fair you must equivocate cost/hp to hp/liter efficiency. Which the supra wins hands down. But go ahead and buy your 70,000 dollar car. I will meet you at the track. We will see who wins. And then after you hand over your pink slip I will be 70,000dollars richer even though I warned you. Im sorry but in my opinion comparing a bmw to a supra is just stupidity. Look at the cars that are making impressive numbers at the track. However, if you are that stuck on the e46 then its your loss.

Just a side note I raced a e46 on the freeway with my 96 saturn sc2 with about 200whp and just incinerated it all day. BMW's are just bad whack jobs. Now if you really want a nice german performance car go with porsche.

Buying one over there is cheaper then one here, and where i live you dont need to meet emissions the m3 which is why they are down chipped