Supra or Bmw?

Greglatta · 11-30-2005, 06:48 PM

Im confused, looking at the numbers, the BMW m3 is far more power and its n/a can someone try to explain why everyone loves the toyota supra so much if it puts out 320hp with turbo while the bmw m3 puts out 330hp n/a, which is faster stock to stock

joel w · 11-30-2005, 07:09 PM

if your trying to compare a $40k new bmw to a $3k 20 year old supra.. ya the newer bmw will be faster.. but ad 3k of mods to that 3k supra and i bet that bmw loses every day...

SupraMan1784 · 11-30-2005, 07:15 PM

personally i would take the supra hands down, from factory numbers yes the m3 does have more power than a supra, but the question is why do people like supras more? i honestly dont know, it could be the fact that they have one of the most tunable motors, or maybe its cause theyre twin turbo? ur asking a question that has no definitive answer here, but u normally dont see supras just driving down teh road on a normal basis...m3's are a lot more common to see and supras are a little rarer...its more of an opinion based question, its not all about power too, i mean people could spend the money to buy an m3 any day, but there are people that would rather buy something and put the work and effort into it so they could have something faster, and i know my car can smoke any m3 anyday

joel w · 11-30-2005, 07:22 PM

plus the supras are just tuff.. very well built and engineered. IMO and they drive so sweet at high speeds and corner like its on a rail..... twin cams w24 valves, it like to rev up..

SKILMATIC · 12-01-2005, 04:22 AM

Ok I am not a genius by any means but let me try and break it down for you.

First off, yes from the factory the BMW does put down better numbers. But look at what your comparing. You are comparing a modern age technologically advanced vehicle to a 10yr old vehicle with inregards to todays technology is primitive. I mean for example take a look at the new 06 IS350 that car stock with a v6 3.5l(i think) puts out more horse stock then my dads 05 Mustang GT (which is a V8) stock. And thats just 1 years of difference in technology. Imagine what 10years will do.

Second of all, why would you want a $55,000 car with the maintenance bill of a Ferrari when you can have a car where mechanics and parts are virtually plentiful and cheap for the most part? Also you are gauranteed the reliability and strength because its a toyota whereas BMW's when they become 10years old they are nothing but headaches.

Thirdly, lets do a fair comparison. Now in 97 the BMW 5series which still runs for almost 21grand has a 4.4l v8 that puts out about 282hp. Now lets move on to the 97 M3 which puts out 240hp with a I6. You can see with a fair equivelance of cars the Supra basically decimates any BWM that came out that year.

Now lets move onto mods. I can gaurantee you and I can put money on this that with less money that I can make any turboed supra waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than any BMW. Let me just paint a picture for you. With a twin turboed supra all I have to do is install a Bosst controller and bigger injectors and I can put out well over 450hp which will only cost me about 400bucks. With a BMW your lucky you can get one injector for that price. LOL Not to mention even with all the bolt-ons in the world you still would be shy of 450hp.

But I guess its your money and you can spend it on whatever dumb sh!t you want. LOL Just never say we didnt warned you. There is a reason why a decent condition 97 Turboed supra is still at least 35grand. Our bottom ends are virtually indestructable while BMW's start taking poops when you exceed 500hp on the stock bottom end.

Good luck with your Bimmer.

Greglatta · 12-01-2005, 06:49 PM

How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

SupraMan1784 · 12-01-2005, 08:28 PM

225hp is the answer

joel w · 12-01-2005, 08:44 PM

sorry my bad, i didnt realize i was in the mk4 section when i posted, but it still applies sorta..

1988gte · 12-02-2005, 06:14 AM

found this, read torque, and weight. don't they play role in numbers?
http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/

RedSupra87 · 12-02-2005, 04:31 PM

Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too.

11-30-2005, 06:48 PM	#1
Greglatta Intake Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	Supra or Bmw? Im confused, looking at the numbers, the BMW m3 is far more power and its n/a can someone try to explain why everyone loves the toyota supra so much if it puts out 320hp with turbo while the bmw m3 puts out 330hp n/a, which is faster stock to stock

11-30-2005, 07:15 PM	#3
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	personally i would take the supra hands down, from factory numbers yes the m3 does have more power than a supra, but the question is why do people like supras more? i honestly dont know, it could be the fact that they have one of the most tunable motors, or maybe its cause theyre twin turbo? ur asking a question that has no definitive answer here, but u normally dont see supras just driving down teh road on a normal basis...m3's are a lot more common to see and supras are a little rarer...its more of an opinion based question, its not all about power too, i mean people could spend the money to buy an m3 any day, but there are people that would rather buy something and put the work and effort into it so they could have something faster, and i know my car can smoke any m3 anyday __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

11-30-2005, 07:22 PM	#4
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	plus the supras are just tuff.. very well built and engineered. IMO and they drive so sweet at high speeds and corner like its on a rail..... twin cams w24 valves, it like to rev up.. Last edited by joel williams; 11-30-2005 at 07:26 PM.

12-01-2005, 08:28 PM	#7
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	225hp is the answer __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

12-02-2005, 04:31 PM	#10
RedSupra87 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 77	Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too. __________________ *RedSupra''87''*

11-30-2005, 07:09 PM	#2
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	if your trying to compare a $40k new bmw to a $3k 20 year old supra.. ya the newer bmw will be faster.. but ad 3k of mods to that 3k supra and i bet that bmw loses every day...

12-01-2005, 04:22 AM	#5
SKILMATIC 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 221	Ok I am not a genius by any means but let me try and break it down for you. First off, yes from the factory the BMW does put down better numbers. But look at what your comparing. You are comparing a modern age technologically advanced vehicle to a 10yr old vehicle with inregards to todays technology is primitive. I mean for example take a look at the new 06 IS350 that car stock with a v6 3.5l(i think) puts out more horse stock then my dads 05 Mustang GT (which is a V8) stock. And thats just 1 years of difference in technology. Imagine what 10years will do. Second of all, why would you want a $55,000 car with the maintenance bill of a Ferrari when you can have a car where mechanics and parts are virtually plentiful and cheap for the most part? Also you are gauranteed the reliability and strength because its a toyota whereas BMW's when they become 10years old they are nothing but headaches. Thirdly, lets do a fair comparison. Now in 97 the BMW 5series which still runs for almost 21grand has a 4.4l v8 that puts out about 282hp. Now lets move on to the 97 M3 which puts out 240hp with a I6. You can see with a fair equivelance of cars the Supra basically decimates any BWM that came out that year. Now lets move onto mods. I can gaurantee you and I can put money on this that with less money that I can make any turboed supra waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than any BMW. Let me just paint a picture for you. With a twin turboed supra all I have to do is install a Bosst controller and bigger injectors and I can put out well over 450hp which will only cost me about 400bucks. With a BMW your lucky you can get one injector for that price. LOL Not to mention even with all the bolt-ons in the world you still would be shy of 450hp. But I guess its your money and you can spend it on whatever dumb sh!t you want. LOL Just never say we didnt warned you. There is a reason why a decent condition 97 Turboed supra is still at least 35grand. Our bottom ends are virtually indestructable while BMW's start taking poops when you exceed 500hp on the stock bottom end. Good luck with your Bimmer.

12-01-2005, 06:49 PM	#6
Greglatta Intake Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

12-01-2005, 08:44 PM	#8
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	sorry my bad, i didnt realize i was in the mk4 section when i posted, but it still applies sorta..

12-02-2005, 06:14 AM	#9
1988gte 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 140	found this, read torque, and weight. don't they play role in numbers? http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/

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