A fair trade ?

SupraDietrich · 12-31-2005, 03:11 AM

Hey everyone, i don't know if you guys remember me but i'm the supra fan with the avenger lol, but yeah my friend scott owns an 87 turbo that's kicking out about 350 now *fuck yeah*, lol anyways, he just inherited a 1990 Eagle Talon TSI, 5spd turbo with almost 300km on it and he said he'd fix it up good before selling, now he's offering me a trade, straight trade, my 1995 auto dodge avenger with 201 000km on it for this eagle, and i wanted the opinion from a few good turbo lovers, any responce is appreciated, thanx guys, oh and if i do trade my car is worth around 5500 and not safetied, his talon is worth about 380 and also not safetied, lemme know what you guys think, he can get it safetied for me as well, your fellow tuner, Dieter

SKILMATIC · 12-31-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SupraDietrich

Hey everyone, i don't know if you guys remember me but i'm the supra fan with the avenger lol, but yeah my friend scott owns an 87 turbo that's kicking out about 350 now *---- yeah*, lol anyways, he just inherited a 1990 Eagle Talon TSI, 5spd turbo with almost 300km on it and he said he'd fix it up good before selling, now he's offering me a trade, straight trade, my 1995 auto dodge avenger with 201 000km on it for this eagle, and i wanted the opinion from a few good turbo lovers, any responce is appreciated, thanx guys, oh and if i do trade my car is worth around 5500 and not safetied, his talon is worth about 380 and also not safetied, lemme know what you guys think, he can get it safetied for me as well, your fellow tuner, Dieter

Umm its a mitsubishi man dont buy it hahaha. Jk, I do know that generation of mitsubishis have been very impresive on the drag strip. I guess its going to come down to how much you value your avenger. Do you have any pics of this talon? Is it in goood shape?

j3pz · 12-31-2005, 07:21 AM

they all suck! get a supra... jk. any of those cars would be great. i cant say i know anything about the cars so i cant tell to go either way.

KingDiamond · 12-31-2005, 12:58 PM

well i don't know the conversion of km to miles, but if its high mileage i would stay away from the talon.

Levi1717 · 12-31-2005, 06:11 PM

i've also heard that most of the engines in those talons can have crank walk.....which is a big problem and cost some money.

SupraDietrich · 12-31-2005, 08:12 PM

hmmm, well thnks for the input guys, keep it coming, it's all helpfull, so far i've only heard (through my own research) that they have a timing belt problem and the fuel pump goes pretty quick, but both cheep fixes, iunno... i mean i want a standard pretty badley and if anyof you were trying to sell my car you'd maybe think again about this trade lol, nevermind that but it has been pretty difficult to sell, the last owner of my avenger was a well known asshole who abused the car, but i've fixed it up since i baught it and it hasn't shown any problems since i first picked it up, and it's great in the winter, which so is this talon appearantly which i really only plan to drive in the summer though, the insurance is about the same here in winnipeg manitoba... avenger = 97-98 a month, and the talon = 100-101 a month, also i've convinced my friend to get the talon prety much rebuilt, like he's replacing fuel lines, fuel pump, timing belt, timing belt cover (broke off when belt went), he's fixing the rust spots (very few), and he's also throwing his new BOV on there which he baught last summer and so it was only used about a week before winter, and man is it loud, MWAHAHAHA,,, anyways, yeah keep throwing in the info, thanx guys, ttyl, dieter

P.S. What's crank walk ???

TONY! · 12-31-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SupraDietrich

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P.S. What's crank walk ???

Crankwalk--if you are asking what that means--is when the crankshaft has forward to backward play (or side to side play in front wheel drive cars).
It is not supposed to have any noticable play at all.
Some manufacturers (like Mitsubishi especially) have this problem, while other companies' cars don't seem to be plagued with it.
And if I remember correctly, 3000GT's have that problem as well (which is also a Mitsu' car).
In some cases, the block can be damaged or the crank even.
You would test for this by seeing if the crank moves at all while the clutch pedal is being pushed in. It would take two people to do that test: one to push the clutch pedal and one to feel or see the crank pulley move or not move.
Motion on the crank's axis = crankwalk.

SupraDietrich · 01-01-2006, 06:45 PM

ya learn something new everyday, thanx a bunch for the awesome deffinition *thumbs up*, that's good to know, the talon is actually a TSI AWD though, so it's not front wheel drive alone, my car i should worry though i guess lol, it's a front wheel drive mitsu engine and tranny... hmmm, keep 'em comin' people, thanks

DSM_owner · 02-01-2006, 07:58 PM

You are perfectly safe from crankwalk on that 90 talon. Only the 95-99's were suseptable to crankwalk. If the talon has low miles i.e. under 120k and if it looked in good condition. i would go for it. If it has a lot of miles, i would expect thinks to be breaking and be prepared to fix it. Oh and AWD dsm's crankwalk too, not just fwd.

T is for TURBO · 02-04-2006, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DSM_owner

You are perfectly safe from crankwalk on that 90 talon. Only the 95-99's were suseptable to crankwalk. If the talon has low miles i.e. under 120k and if it looked in good condition. i would go for it. If it has a lot of miles, i would expect thinks to be breaking and be prepared to fix it. Oh and AWD dsm's crankwalk too, not just fwd.

actually anything after april of 92 has the 7 bolt, which is known to crankwalk. You are right though, its not just front wheel drive DSMs that get it, the AWD model can get it as well. However, crankwalk is overrated. Most people who claim to have a CWed motor, don't actually have crankwalk.

12-31-2005, 03:11 AM	#1
SupraDietrich Stock Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23	A fair trade ? Hey everyone, i don't know if you guys remember me but i'm the supra fan with the avenger lol, but yeah my friend scott owns an 87 turbo that's kicking out about 350 now fuck yeah, lol anyways, he just inherited a 1990 Eagle Talon TSI, 5spd turbo with almost 300km on it and he said he'd fix it up good before selling, now he's offering me a trade, straight trade, my 1995 auto dodge avenger with 201 000km on it for this eagle, and i wanted the opinion from a few good turbo lovers, any responce is appreciated, thanx guys, oh and if i do trade my car is worth around 5500 and not safetied, his talon is worth about 380 and also not safetied, lemme know what you guys think, he can get it safetied for me as well, your fellow tuner, Dieter __________________ I want a supra SO SO Badly...

12-31-2005, 07:21 AM	#3
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	they all suck! get a supra... jk. any of those cars would be great. i cant say i know anything about the cars so i cant tell to go either way. __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

12-31-2005, 06:11 PM	#5
Levi1717 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Corinth, Maine Posts: 116	i've also heard that most of the engines in those talons can have crank walk.....which is a big problem and cost some money. __________________ 87 N/A with a new JDM 7mge. Looking for a 7mgte

12-31-2005, 08:12 PM	#6
SupraDietrich Stock Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23	hmmm, well thnks for the input guys, keep it coming, it's all helpfull, so far i've only heard (through my own research) that they have a timing belt problem and the fuel pump goes pretty quick, but both cheep fixes, iunno... i mean i want a standard pretty badley and if anyof you were trying to sell my car you'd maybe think again about this trade lol, nevermind that but it has been pretty difficult to sell, the last owner of my avenger was a well known asshole who abused the car, but i've fixed it up since i baught it and it hasn't shown any problems since i first picked it up, and it's great in the winter, which so is this talon appearantly which i really only plan to drive in the summer though, the insurance is about the same here in winnipeg manitoba... avenger = 97-98 a month, and the talon = 100-101 a month, also i've convinced my friend to get the talon prety much rebuilt, like he's replacing fuel lines, fuel pump, timing belt, timing belt cover (broke off when belt went), he's fixing the rust spots (very few), and he's also throwing his new BOV on there which he baught last summer and so it was only used about a week before winter, and man is it loud, MWAHAHAHA,,, anyways, yeah keep throwing in the info, thanx guys, ttyl, dieter P.S. What's crank walk ??? __________________ I want a supra SO SO Badly...

01-01-2006, 06:45 PM	#8
SupraDietrich Stock Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23	ya learn something new everyday, thanx a bunch for the awesome deffinition thumbs up, that's good to know, the talon is actually a TSI AWD though, so it's not front wheel drive alone, my car i should worry though i guess lol, it's a front wheel drive mitsu engine and tranny... hmmm, keep 'em comin' people, thanks __________________ I want a supra SO SO Badly...

12-31-2005, 12:58 PM	#4
KingDiamond 12psi boost Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Milford, NJ Posts: 357	well i don't know the conversion of km to miles, but if its high mileage i would stay away from the talon.

02-01-2006, 07:58 PM	#9
DSM_owner Stock Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1	You are perfectly safe from crankwalk on that 90 talon. Only the 95-99's were suseptable to crankwalk. If the talon has low miles i.e. under 120k and if it looked in good condition. i would go for it. If it has a lot of miles, i would expect thinks to be breaking and be prepared to fix it. Oh and AWD dsm's crankwalk too, not just fwd.